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Old 04-06-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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I'm surprised that there has been no discussion on this. What do you guys think? Northfield Park owner, Hard Rock executive discuss racino plans | cleveland.com
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Old 04-06-2012, 10:45 AM
 
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I'm against this...I believe it will take some business away from our Downtown Casino
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Old 04-06-2012, 08:06 PM
 
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I'm surprised that there has been no discussion on this. What do you guys think? Northfield Park owner, Hard Rock executive discuss racino plans | cleveland.com
I tell you what, I think it's a great idea... I live out this way, and this is good for people (including seniors) to enjoy and not worry about the hustle and bustle of downtown Cleveland... A lot of people enjoy going to that race track anyway... I've been there before. They're putting in 2,500 slot machines, Hard Rock Cafe', a steak house, buffet restaurant, live entertainment and conference center facilities for $275M... It'll even bring 1,000 jobs. More variety is a good thing for all of greater Cleveland... This will be some competition for phase 1 and phase 2 casinos in Cleveland, but it won't hurt it at all... Young folks are more attracted to downtown, tourists and celebraties will be more attracted to downtown, plus people are moving downtown everyday! There's a different kind of energy down there... I do enjoy knowing I'll have EVEN MORE options for entertainment! I'm sure I am not the only one that's in shock and extreme excitement about this new development...
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Old 04-06-2012, 08:54 PM
 
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I find it kind of amazing how all these years Ohio was so against gambling and meanwhile all the surrounding states built casinos. The reccesion hits and OH is in dire straits and a perfect scenario to get voters to pass legalized gambling to generate tax revenue. Next OH builds billions of dollars worth of casinos. To me I see it as 'selling out'. In my travels I have many opportunities to stay at and go to casinos accross the country but I don't see the intrigue. IMO it brings in the customers that have no reason to throw away their money, kind of like the people that play the lottery with hopes to fund their retirement...just my .02..
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:08 PM
 
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@LoveCleveland I didnt look at it from that point of view....I guess it would be a great thing :-)
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Old 04-07-2012, 09:43 PM
 
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I find it kind of amazing how all these years Ohio was so against gambling and meanwhile all the surrounding states built casinos. The reccesion hits and OH is in dire straits and a perfect scenario to get voters to pass legalized gambling to generate tax revenue. Next OH builds billions of dollars worth of casinos. To me I see it as 'selling out'.
Either that or every single proposition put in front of the voters up until now has been absolute crap.

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In my travels I have many opportunities to stay at and go to casinos accross the country but I don't see the intrigue. IMO it brings in the customers that have no reason to throw away their money, kind of like the people that play the lottery with hopes to fund their retirement...just my .02..
It's simply another form of entertainment. You can drop $200 on a sporting event or you can go to a nice restaurant or you can throw $200 on a table or in some slot machines with a chance of winning more money. It's just another option that did not exist before.
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Old 04-09-2012, 09:35 AM
 
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I don't like it. I am all for gambling but I don't want to start seeing slot machines everywhere. Like Nevada. What's next? A bank of machines at the local CVS?
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:24 AM
 
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^I know what you mean. But, really, what's the difference between a lottery ticket and a slot machine? The short answer is: absolutely nothing.
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:30 AM
 
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I find it kind of amazing how all these years Ohio was so against gambling and meanwhile all the surrounding states built casinos. The reccesion hits and OH is in dire straits and a perfect scenario to get voters to pass legalized gambling to generate tax revenue. Next OH builds billions of dollars worth of casinos. To me I see it as 'selling out'. In my travels I have many opportunities to stay at and go to casinos accross the country but I don't see the intrigue. IMO it brings in the customers that have no reason to throw away their money, kind of like the people that play the lottery with hopes to fund their retirement...just my .02..
Racinos were never approved by the voters. In 2009 (before the Gilbert/PN casino proposal was voted on) the legislature passed a bill proposed by Ted Strickland that legalized racinos. The Ohio Roundtable promptly sued. In the Strickland case, the Supreme Court ruled that casinos can only be approved by a statewide vote so the proposal died. A group had enough votes to put it on a ballot but decided not to.

Last year, Kasich signed an executive order allowing racinos. Once again, the Roundtable sued. The only casinos ever approved by the voters are the four being built by Rock Ohio and Penn National. Its up to the Supreme Court to see if they find Kasich's order illegal as they did Strickland's. If they do, then the Northfield Park/Thistledown, etc. racinos will not be opened without statewide voter approval.
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:45 AM
 
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Good information
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