Cleveland Development Discussions (Euclid, Lyndhurst, Washington: swimming pool, taxable, long-term)

[dr_j_planning]

https://www.cleveland.com/realestate...arch-says.html

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by dr_j_planning

https://www.cleveland.com/realestate...arch-says.html

Well, I just bought a home on the east side of Cleveland FWIW. But I guess the unpleasant truth here is that a lot of the east side is basically unliveable and when it comes to putting down roots and investing in a community, I dont know why an average person would take those risks for basically no payoff whatsoever.

[dr_j_planning]

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2021/...ga-county.html

[adam36]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

Well, I just bought a home on the east side of Cleveland FWIW. But I guess the unpleasant truth here is that a lot of the east side is basically unliveable and when it comes to putting down roots and investing in a community, I dont know why an average person would take those risks for basically no payoff whatsoever.

Disagree. I moved here for work on the east side and can't understand my colleagues who want to live on the far out west side (not a fun place like Lakewood). My five minute work commute is priceless. Also, not sure about what it's like out the west side of the city, but the topology of the hiking areas to the east and southeast of the city are excellent whereas locations I've been to west of the city have been more in line with the flatness of the midwest. To each one's own, but the east side has some serious advantages for those looking, unless, of course, your comment was pure sarcasm and I failed the test.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by adam36

Disagree. I moved here for work on the east side and can't understand my colleagues who want to live on the far out west side (not a fun place like Lakewood). My five minute work commute is priceless. Also, not sure about what it's like out the west side of the city, but the topology of the hiking areas to the east and southeast of the city are excellent whereas locations I've been to west of the city have been more in line with the flatness of the midwest. To each one's own, but the east side has some serious advantages for those looking, unless, of course, your comment was pure sarcasm and I failed the test.

I didn't say i don't want to live where I live, the opposite! But it is pretty impossible to deny that large swaths of the east side, probably the majority, are uninhabitable. Note, I am not talking about suburbs, I am talking about the city of Cleveland. Perhaps you haven't see everything there is here yet. I am assuming you do not live in Central, Kinsman, Fairfax, Glenville, Mt. Pleasant, Union Miles Park, Lee Miles, Slavic Village, Woodland Hills, St. Clair or Glenville. If you are in the city, you are probably in Larchmere, Little Italy, University Circle.

I am rooting for all these areas btw. I really want to believe in places like Slavic Village and Glenville particularly. I even have a soft spot for St Clair-Superior. But did not make sense to buy a home there.

[rowhomecity]

Is there a masterplan for Cleveland's waterfront?

I understand there are major barriers due to infrastructure, but if there was a way for the city to develop the Burke Lakefront Airport, that would be a huge boon and could even be a mini Millennium Park type of project which would attract lots of downtown investment.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by rowhomecity

Is there a masterplan for Cleveland's waterfront?

I understand there are major barriers due to infrastructure, but if there was a way for the city to develop the Burke Lakefront Airport, that would be a huge boon and could even be a mini Millennium Park type of project which would attract lots of downtown investment.

I know Burke comes up a lot, but I think it would be a major flop if it were re-developed. It's just not really close enough to the rest of the "stuff" downtown and it's cut off from other neighborhoods like Asiatown by a highway. I think it's also a bit unfair because Burke does get used a lot and I believe that the airport is built on landfill specifically there to have been an airport. I think getting people to already existing Wendy Park would be better and doable. I thought I saw some article claiming the Browns may want to build a new stadium south of Progressive Field, thus freeing up the best lakefront space to integrate truly with the rest of downtown. This would be much better. It's a travesty having Cleveland Browns Stadium where it is, with so little usage.

[ohioaninsc]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

I know Burke comes up a lot, but I think it would be a major flop if it were re-developed. It's just not really close enough to the rest of the "stuff" downtown and it's cut off from other neighborhoods like Asiatown by a highway. I think it's also a bit unfair because Burke does get used a lot and I believe that the airport is built on landfill specifically there to have been an airport. I think getting people to already existing Wendy Park would be better and doable. I thought I saw some article claiming the Browns may want to build a new stadium south of Progressive Field, thus freeing up the best lakefront space to integrate truly with the rest of downtown. This would be much better. It's a travesty having Cleveland Browns Stadium where it is, with so little usage.

Burke is really important for the big Downtown corporations so I doubt you'll ever see anything done w/ it.
A new Browns stadium south of Progressive Field would be awesome...free up that whole part of the lakefront and get the malls extended over the RR tracks and freeway.

[adam36]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

I didn't say i don't want to live where I live, the opposite! But it is pretty impossible to deny that large swaths of the east side, probably the majority, are uninhabitable. Note, I am not talking about suburbs, I am talking about the city of Cleveland. Perhaps you haven't see everything there is here yet. I am assuming you do not live in Central, Kinsman, Fairfax, Glenville, Mt. Pleasant, Union Miles Park, Lee Miles, Slavic Village, Woodland Hills, St. Clair or Glenville. If you are in the city, you are probably in Larchmere, Little Italy, University Circle.

I am rooting for all these areas btw. I really want to believe in places like Slavic Village and Glenville particularly. I even have a soft spot for St Clair-Superior. But did not make sense to buy a home there.

True --The few drives I've had through some of the traditional, run-down east side neighborhoods gives the impression that the city has simply given up. I don't know if that's actually the case..

[QCongress83216]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

It's a travesty having Cleveland Browns Stadium where it is, with so little usage.

Blame the NFL for that, they wanted the stadium on the lakefront. I've heard that The Haslams want to move the stadium closer to the Downtown area so they can develop the lakefront.