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Tell that to all the schools doing online classes!
If you doubt it's about employment... take a look at the cost!
You don't spend $20K, $40K, $100K just to 'know more stuff'
It's MARKETED as job prep...
I am sorry, I should have been more clear. You are right in a way. Not every school is created equally. Personally, I wouldn't consider college or grad school worth it if it were not a tier 1 or tier 2 school. When we talk about lower tier or online-only schools, you are right, however when you talk about highly ranked schools, the knowledge you gain will easily reap financial benefits outweighing the cost of the program over your lifetime.
however when you talk about highly ranked schools, the knowledge you gain will easily reap financial benefits outweighing the cost of the program over your lifetime.
Depends on the major one obtains when they go to college. Not every major in today's market will reap rewards.
I am sorry, I should have been more clear. You are right in a way. Not every school is created equally. Personally, I wouldn't consider college or grad school worth it if it were not a tier 1 or tier 2 school. When we talk about lower tier or online-only schools, you are right, however when you talk about highly ranked schools, the knowledge you gain will easily reap financial benefits outweighing the cost of the program over your lifetime.
So, to be clear, YOU AGREE it's about the money....
I'm after the Money.
I tell teachers I'm here for the education, if I can't get it I'm after the "A"
Now, the Advanced Geology I'm going to Audit in the fall (Because they won't let me get started on my Masters Early and take over 15 hours)...
THAT I am doing for the education... Purely b/c I want to learn.
(It was FUNNY to see people's reactions to that... me telling them I didn't care about the grade (Having a 3.75) OR the credit (Having enough for my degree at that time)... that I just wanted to know.
THAT more than anything tells me this is not about learning!
I chose my first major (psychology) because I enjoyed the subject. I didn't think about what kind of job it would give me when I graduated. So based on the choices in the OP's post, I guess I chose it to broaden my mind and introduce me to new ideas.
I chose my second major (nursing) because I enjoyed learning about health care and wanted to help people. But in addition to that, I thought it would train me for a job one day.
I think with most jobs, however, on-the-job training is where you learn the most. Theory can only prepare you so much.
So, to be clear, YOU AGREE it's about the money....
I'm after the Money.
I tell teachers I'm here for the education, if I can't get it I'm after the "A"
Now, the Advanced Geology I'm going to Audit in the fall (Because they won't let me get started on my Masters Early and take over 15 hours)...
THAT I am doing for the education... Purely b/c I want to learn.
(It was FUNNY to see people's reactions to that... me telling them I didn't care about the grade (Having a 3.75) OR the credit (Having enough for my degree at that time)... that I just wanted to know.
THAT more than anything tells me this is not about learning!
No. You don't get it. Money is secondary. Money follows knowledge. If you go to college only wanting to get cash out of it, you will not be as successful (in terms of power, money, fame, etc) as those who decide to learn as much as possible.
Money is the goal of a job. Knowledge is the goal of college. There is an enormous difference between the two.
You know the saying that goes around wall street? "You learn in your 20's and earn in your 30's" People who go after nothing but money early in life rarely find it.
No. You don't get it. Money is secondary. Money follows knowledge. If you go to college only wanting to get cash out of it, you will not be as successful (in terms of power, money, fame, etc) as those who decide to learn as much as possible.
Money is the goal of a job. Knowledge is the goal of college. There is an enormous difference between the two.
You know the saying that goes around wall street? "You learn in your 20's and earn in your 30's" People who go after nothing but money early in life rarely find it.
I personally know plenty of people that go against your theory. Those who became lawyers and pharmacists come to mind. Cut the salaries in half of a lot of high earning professions and you'd see a ton of people not interested.
I personally know plenty of people that go against your theory. Those who became lawyers and pharmacists come to mind. Cut the salaries in half of a lot of high earning professions and you'd see a ton of people not interested.
Lawyers don't make money until they get past the associate level in a firm, which typically doesn't happen until their 30's, and the average salary of a pharmacist right out of school is around $80k, which I would not consider an incredibly high salary.
Lawyers don't make money until they get past the associate level in a firm, which typically doesn't happen until their 30's, and the average salary of a pharmacist right out of school is around $80k, which I would not consider an incredibly high salary.
Well what "you" consider high really is irrelevant. In the terms of average US income both jobs earn a very high income. Plenty of Pharmacists can/do get jobs close to 100k also.
You avoid the main point though. If the salary was cut in half for a pharmacist(or similar job 80k plus) demand for that profession would plummet.
Well what "you" consider high really is irrelevant. In the terms of average US income both jobs earn a very high income. Plenty of Pharmacists can/do get jobs close to 100k also.
You avoid the main point though. If the salary was cut in half for a pharmacist(or similar job 80k plus) demand for that profession would plummet.
You are absolutely correct, and this is not a black-and-white issue. We are debating shades of grey. My point was if you look at high stress, high reward professions, most people do NOT do it only for the money. Take doctors, for example, virtually no one does it for the money (talk to a few if you don't believe me).
Or take CEO's, executives, etc. Most of them like getting paid what they are worth, but do it for more than money alone.
I am saying that focusing on knowledge instead of money (even for a pharmacist or lawyer) will, in the end, make you MUCH more successful than if you pursue money alone.
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