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To be fair, neither Pitt or Penn State are true "state schools"; rather they are "state supported". So they are considerably more expensive than Pennsylvania's true public universities...the PASSHE schools. However none of the PASSHE schools can compete with either Pitt or Penn State in terms of quality. So the bottom line is: PA residents really get shafted when it comes to higher education!
This is true. Both are still a steal in comparison to private universities of similar quality.
I earned BS in Electrical Engineering (starting in 1979) for $500 per semester which included books. It was $350 for tuition, about $100 for books, and $50 for health fees, parking, and miscellaneous. I lived at home.
When I got my first job, I was sitting next to some guys who graduated from Georgia Tech and had $20,000 student loans (1986).
Average in-state tuition and fees at four-year public colleges rose an additional $631 this fall, or 8.3 percent, compared with a year ago.
Nationally, the cost of a full credit load has passed $8,000, an all-time high. Throw in room and board, and the average list price for a state school now runs more than $17,000 a year, according to the twin annual reports on college costs and student aid published Wednesday by the College Board.
add another year since most people take 5 to graduate. 85k is considered a reasonable price for a degree at a state school these days.
Average debt for a public university is around 20k so you clearly don't have any idea of how to calculate costs.
To be fair, neither Pitt or Penn State are true "state schools"; rather they are "state supported". So they are considerably more expensive than Pennsylvania's true public universities...the PASSHE schools. However none of the PASSHE schools can compete with either Pitt or Penn State in terms of quality. So the bottom line is: PA residents really get shafted when it comes to higher education!
If you think that move to MD and see what a real crap, overpriced state university system looks like. PA's is actually considered one of the best in the US both in quality and access.
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Originally Posted by tropolis
its a state school im talking about. overpopulated and you cant get into the classes you need, plus dumb useless requirements that everybody has to take.
Only repeating what others have said, core curricular requirements are not just at state schools. Some of you young ones need to get out more and see what really is, not what you think is true.
I agree.... not just in the Southeast... but all over. Certainly not all crappy. But they're not great.
I would definitely argue some are great and yes not just in the Southeast. The only reason I single out the SE is because the SE and California are known for their public universities as opposed to the NE which is known for its private universities.
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Average in-state tuition and fees at four-year public colleges rose an additional $631 this fall, or 8.3 percent, compared with a year ago.
Nationally, the cost of a full credit load has passed $8,000, an all-time high. Throw in room and board, and the average list price for a state school now runs more than $17,000 a year, according to the twin annual reports on college costs and student aid published Wednesday by the College Board.
Add another year since most people take 5 to graduate. 85k is considered a reasonable price for a degree at a state school these days.
Let's try to keep politics out of this thread please.
I agree that core curriculum is the norm at the majority of colleges, public or private. As to whether those classes are "crap" or not is the topic for another thread.
Thanks to help from my parents I'll have around 27k in loans, partially die to the fact that I went to a private university for a year before transferring to a state school.
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