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I see this a lot in STEM graduate programs. These students are willing to be slaves in the lab for close to a decade for a chance at a mediocre science job. For them it is a way out of poverty. For Americans, science has become a way into poverty and many American Citizen students are opting to pursue careers that offer jobs/pay more commensurate with the work and intelligence required.
I see this a lot in STEM graduate programs. These students are willing to be slaves in the lab for close to a decade for a chance at a mediocre science job. For them it is a way out of poverty. For Americans, science has become a way into poverty and many American Citizen students are opting to pursue careers that offer jobs/pay more commensurate with the work and intelligence required.
But aren't the foreign students well to do? We're not getting the the poverty kids from Malaysia, for example.
Not true....they are prepared differently. They have great math and science backgrounds but have them try to think their way through a problem with little information to help. Wrote learning teaches facts but it doesn't teach kids how to think.
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When this hit the news here at our local University, it was all about the money. The state cut the budget severely, so they admitted to turning away local students with 4.0 GPA in favor of foreign students who are happy to pay twice as much to go there. Yes, they are rich foreign students, but whether or not they are better prepared for college academically makes no difference,
they just bring in more revenue.
But aren't the foreign students well to do? We're not getting the the poverty kids from Malaysia, for example.
I think some of them get grants from their govt. Others are supported by their PI's or via being TA's.
The main thing is they are willing to work like slaves and be in the lab 80 hours a week for the chance at a crappy/unstable science job. It is better than what they can expect back home but for an American it is an unbelievable bad deal.
I think some of them get grants from their govt. Others are supported by their PI's or via being TA's.
The main thing is they are willing to work like slaves and be in the lab 80 hours a week for the chance at a crappy/unstable science job. It is better than what they can expect back home but for an American it is an unbelievable bad deal.
I don't know what they're doing as grad students, but the OP is addressing undergrads and foreign undergrads are not working as TAs.
I find that it is kind of funny how the legislature has consistently cut funding and are now miffed that the school is changing its admissions policies to make up the shortfall.
Truth is, when foreign students pay full tuition, that money helps cover the scholarships for US students who are smart or driven enough to earn them. Being the happy recipient of such scholarships, I can't say I'm all too sad that there are 2,500 foreign students at my university paying about $30k a year while I only pay $3k for a graduate degree from the top-ranked school in my field--the rest being covered by scholarships that are paid for, in part, by the tuition of foreign students.
So it's all about how you look at it. If you are smart and driven enough, you can be the beneficiary of higher foreign enrollment.
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