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Old 07-09-2012, 10:04 AM
 
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If someone has graduated high school and supposedly been going to college for the past 10 years, but they write "four fathers" with the intended meaning being "forefathers" - is it fair to say they've been ripped off(by the college) or that they're just plain stupid?
Or they majored in engineering.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:02 PM
 
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If someone has graduated high school and supposedly been going to college for the past 10 years, but they write "four fathers" with the intended meaning being "forefathers" - is it fair to say they've been ripped off(by the college) or that they're just plain stupid?
Is he or she a graduate? Is the school accredited? lolol
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:13 PM
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Maybe they just are not good and/or interested in grammar.

You can have a high IQ and not be good at grammar or spelling. I think it is sort of hypocritical that we have all these threads bashing people who make spelling or grammar mistakes but bend over backwards reassuring people who aren't so hot at math that they aren't stupid. Which btw correlates with high iq better than spelling!

The Spelling Society
Very true. I have difficulty spelling the most simple of words. Must be a type of LD. That's wht they invented spell check and editors.

I have both and I would not trade my IQ for ...that of almost anyone on earth.

It's a left brain function and not an executive function. No biggie.
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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Oh darn, someone made a mistake. Let's all jump on our high horses and act like we've never done anything wrong.


Good lord people, I thought we got rid of that behavior after our freshman year of college.


If your college degree helped you with reasoning skills like your OP, then I think you are the one who got ripped off.
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:31 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Was this a one time incident? Were they using a cell phone with auto correct? Did their computer auto correct to that? Was is just a brain fart and they know better and just missed it? Is it possible they are not perfect even if they went to college? Is it possible that using run-on sentences and incorrect punctuation while criticizing someone else indicates one is "just plain stupid" too? I know plenty of people that have genius IQ's and are brilliant in math or science that can't spell worth a darn. Do you really think the are stupid?
Bingo. Maybe this person just made a simple mistake. It happens to every single one of us and many posters on here are extremely ignorant to insist that those who are more prone to grammatical mistakes are "stupid". Such a remark is condescending and not expected from those that are apparently "more" intelligent .
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:42 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I attribute these kinds of errors and poor grammar to the fact that people today overall, but mostly young people under 30, for the most part, do not read very much--and the reading material most choose is typically internet blog sites and e-zines and message boards where users basically make up the rules to spelling and grammar. Then there's the whole facebook and twitter phenomenon, along with texting.

People learn to write by reading. Sadly, reading books, magazine articles, etc. is something that's falling by the wayside. Schools may still require students to read books, but I'd suspect that teachers don't really adhere to high standards. Maybe a hearty number of them allow students to get by with what information they've obtained from sparknotes or wikipedia sites.

That's a marker of a crummy school system--one that continues to assign the so-called classics in high school English classes--books like Moby Dick, The Scarlett Letter, anything by the Bronte sisters, or Edith Wharton, along with Faulkner. All of these authors' books are so well-known and synopses are rife on the internet that students don't have to read them to get through their classes. I think school systems should update their reading lists instead of assigning this boring crap to their students. Even for the ones who actually try to read any of these novels, the language is so dense for them that they're probably dizzy after slogging through the first two pages. More up to date literature might actually encourage students to read more--I'd start with anything by Kerouac (yet they won't get solid grammar lessons from him), or maybe Chuck Palaniuk and that Klostermann guy who's all the rage these days. Their books are funny and entertaining, while at the same time providing a philosophical punch that could rival Hawthorne (who the heck can understand Hawthorne anyway?).
My english teacher gave us tests that were usually very detailed intensive so if one did not read the book, they would probably perform poorly. Keep in mind this was an AP english class, but I enjoyed to read The Scarlet Letter and Heart of Darkness. On the other hand, Pride and Prejudice was absolutely impossible to get through but I still managed to read the entire book. Even though these books might have been boring at times-- actually the word "dry" would better describe them-- they helped me better understand the english language and improve my scores on the SAT and get a 4 on both AP english exams. It all comes down to students dedicating their time to a book EVEN if they are not interested in the material. One will be a stronger reader AND writer because of it.
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Old 07-15-2012, 11:59 PM
 
Location: NC
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If someone has graduated high school and supposedly been going to college for the past 10 years, but they write "four fathers" with the intended meaning being "forefathers" - is it fair to say they've been ripped off(by the college) or that they're just plain stupid?
I think it is fair to say they have seen Lethal Weapon 4.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:50 AM
 
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Oh darn, someone made a mistake. Let's all jump on our high horses and act like we've never done anything wrong.


Good lord people, I thought we got rid of that behavior after our freshman year of college.


If your college degree helped you with reasoning skills like your OP, then I think you are the one who got ripped off.
Dude, since you can't read and write, then, you're stupid. End of story. Stop enabling yourself.
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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Dude, since you can't read and write, then, you're stupid. End of story. Stop enabling yourself.
Whoops, I just have a life. Must be tough to comprehend when you're busy cutting others down for a grammatical error. I stick behind it, if someone thinks that a grammatical error being made is reasoning to say that we're getting ripped off in college, or that it shows someone is stupid.. the real issues lie in that person and their reasoning skills.


Also, what about your sentence. Didn't they teach you that you're not supposed to have then in there? Guess you got ripped off too, or maybe didn't go to an accredited college.

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