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Old 07-17-2013, 11:45 PM
 
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I think that you might want to change majors. Engineering and nursing are very narrow, technical degrees and if I was hiring someone that did not want to work in those fields, I would want to know why. Saying, well I just didn't like it, don't have the communication skills, is not going to cut it either.
Engineering is not narrow though.

Engineers can go into finance and consulting.

As a matter of fact, most Ivy League grads from engineering do anything but engineering. MIT and Caltech too, to a lesser extent.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Folsom
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I think I was intended for Industrial design, but people who i know majored in that work 12 hours a day for 30 k a year, in California. I'd rather make twice that amount in a job that is less taxing but with which im indifferent about (Nursing).

I do not believe that I would be a bad nurse, being logical as I am. Many touchy-feely nurses are very passive aggressive, and manipulative with their patients and coworkers. When they are in a good mood, they are florence nightengale. When they are in a bad mood, watch out! The best nurses I have seen are down to earth and slightly logical nurses, many of them straightforward women and also men. I've seen that female-dominated professions such as nursing tend to have vast amounts of backstabbing, rumors, cliques, lateral violence, and toxicity. I don't think like that at all! I have no intention to go into healthcare management either as I have seen how toxic many of these are in my clinical hosptials. They are all 50+ menopausal RN women backstabbing each other.

So, would i be too weak to be a candidate for healthcare IT or to work in pharmaceutical engineering and processes? i DO NOT WANT to be a floor nurse.
I've been a RN for 35+ years. 10 years acute critical care, and the remaining years in various types of management positions - managed care, quality management, case management, auditing, etc.

IMO, nurses without acute clinical experience (aka floor nurses) make lousy nurses for any other type of nursing job that requires critical thinking based on clinical experience even though there are tons of other wonderful non-hospital jobs out there. You could possibly work in a clinic, or give flu shots, but I certainly wouldn't recommend health informatics. We don't need anymore clueless (inexperienced) administrators.

Yes, it is a well known fact that older nurses "eat the young(er nurses)", so if you choose to pursue a career in nursing you really need to deal with your baggage. You talk about females & menopausal women having drama, honey, you will fit right in! In addition, in every job, every setting, you are going to be dealing with "bitchy, moody, passive aggressive, manipulative, backstabbing, gossiping, toxic" people. That's the real world, and not just floor nursing!! Time to grow up....BTW, nursing is no longer a "woman's" career. There's men even in nontraditional male settings, like OB/GYN nursing.

And if your main goal is to make a ton of money, please do not continue your nursing education. We really need empathetic, caring, educated and experienced nurses taking care of our families. Deal with your OCD issues, as we also don't need anymore flighty/scattered brains in our ED's/ hospitals. The current level of incompetence is astonishing.

I would suggest that you take a semester, or two, off from school to think about what you really want in life. Go study abroad. Go on a missions trip. Figure out what you want. Write it out... Pros & cons, and rate the list in order of importance. In the meantime, relax, enjoy, go with the flow. As long as you aren't striving for resolution, it will all work out.

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Old 07-18-2013, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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^^I agree with most of this. I have been an RN, BSN for 40+ years, just about ready to retire. I've done a lot of different things in nursing, mostly in pediatrics, but various fields of it, e.g. office, public health nurse, labor/delivery/newborn nursery, etc. I've never worked in in-patient peds.

I would suggest the OP not finish the BSN if s/he doesn't want to be a nurse. While over the years I've heard this "song and dance" about how with a nursing degree you can do so much more than nursing, IME, it's not really true. Oh, I know a few nurses who went into real estate, stuff like that, but I don't know any who have some other job that required a college education. Again, IME, the informatics companies tend to hire IT people who don't know squat about what nurses (or doctors) really need. They don't care to hire people who might give them that perspective.

I rarely recommend taking gap time, but I think this may be one case where it would be helpful. I agree with caligirlz' suggestions.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Engineering is not narrow though.

Engineers can go into finance and consulting.

As a matter of fact, most Ivy League grads from engineering do anything but engineering. MIT and Caltech too, to a lesser extent.
Well, the consulting is usually engineering consulting. Seriously, I know a lot of engineers (father, two husbands (!), son-in-law, son-in-law to be, their friends, and most I know are doing engineering. I know one former engineer in finance. Some do go on to be business managers, in engineering businesses.
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Old 07-18-2013, 02:17 PM
 
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Engineering is not narrow though.

Engineers can go into finance and consulting.

As a matter of fact, most Ivy League grads from engineering do anything but engineering. MIT and Caltech too, to a lesser extent.
If someone applied where i worked at, one of my questions would be why they did not want to be in engineering...and the answer had better be good...and like you said, MOST IVY LEAGUE GRADS. If you habe an engineering degree from podunk university, then you can forget it
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Old 07-18-2013, 02:40 PM
 
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If someone applied where i worked at, one of my questions would be why they did not want to be in engineering...and the answer had better be good...
Why?

Aren't you looking for a job and a career too? So much so, that you are considering a 2nd bachelors?

If you applied for a job repairing shoes, and someone asked you "Well, why did you major in History? That has nothing to do with what we do. Why didn't you get a Bachelors and Masters in shoe repair?"

And you'd be like "Sh@t. My choice of a college major has doomed me to be at the mercy of employers who want people that have known they wanted to be a shoe repairer since age 14, and all of their education and work history reflects that."

We're all just trying to find decent jobs where we can carve out a nice living doing something decent.

I know when I look at someone's resume (and I have before), I'll always tend to cut them slack if they bounce around a little, because I've been there myself.
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Old 07-18-2013, 02:47 PM
 
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Why?

Aren't you looking for a job and a career too? So much so, that you are considering a 2nd bachelors?

If you applied for a job repairing shoes, and someone asked you "Well, why did you major in History? That has nothing to do with what we do. Why didn't you get a Bachelors and Masters in shoe repair?"

And you'd be like "Sh@t. My choice of a college major has doomed me to be at the mercy of employers who want people that have known they wanted to be a shoe repairer since age 14, and all of their education and work history reflects that."

We're all just trying to find decent jobs where we can carve out a nice living doing something decent.

I know when I look at someone's resume (and I have before), I'll always tend to cut them slack if they bounce around a little, because I've been there myself.
Its because a degree in history doesnt necessarily prepare one for any specific career while engineering does. On top of that, its ha4d work to get the degree and the pay is excellent. So why would you not want to do it?
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Old 07-18-2013, 03:33 PM
 
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Its because a degree in history doesnt necessarily prepare one for any specific career while engineering does. On top of that, its ha4d work to get the degree and the pay is excellent. So why would you not want to do it?
Maybe they majored in it because it was a 'good career' and they hate it. There could be lots of reasons.

Wouldn't you want someone to give you a chance even though in hindsight you didn't take the straight line from A to B?

Unfortunately that's how the world is. That's why I told the OP to buckle down a pick a major, because she'll be crucified for picking the wrong thing and bouncing around.

But that doesn't mean I would do that.
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Old 07-18-2013, 04:40 PM
 
Location: NY/LA
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Its because a degree in history doesnt necessarily prepare one for any specific career while engineering does. On top of that, its ha4d work to get the degree and the pay is excellent. So why would you not want to do it?
I've always considered an engineering degree to be extremely flexible. I would say that the majority of my classmates and my wife's classmates from undergrad did not end up as engineers, particularly in the fields that they studied. Several went on to study and work in the fields of medicine, law and finance. Some went on to management consulting. A lot of times, these fields pay better than straight up engineering.
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Old 07-18-2013, 04:57 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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Hi!
I'm a nursing student at a large public university...
1) finish what you started. Get the BSN and the licensure.
2) re-think what else you might want to do AFTER that is done.
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