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Old 08-29-2013, 08:39 AM
 
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One of my Grandchildren is looking at colleges and is considering a small college where they promise that the majority of the classes will have no more than 15 students. Here is some other things that they promise and say makes the learning experience better:

1) No Adjuncts

2) No Teaching Assistants from overseas, all classes are taught by the actual professor

3) While the Professors do research, their research is a secondary concern, their teaching is their primary responsibility

4) 90% of the students will have at least one semester abroad

5) Nearly everyone will have at least one internship in their field before graduation

6) 90% of the students graduated from the top ten percent of their class and as a result are dedicated to education, smart and hard working and this will create a better learning environment.

Do you think these are things that will make my Grandson learn more than his second option at a large University of 60,000 students?

 
Old 08-29-2013, 09:21 AM
 
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Those other points matter more to me than class size!

What school is this?
 
Old 08-29-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Our son goes to a large university - but.... his major is a smaller group. He is a sophomore this year but already taking classes towards his major. One of his labs has only 25 or so students. The major as a whole only has about 70 and will likely get a bit smaller as some drop out.

Yes, some of his classes last year were on the large side for the lecture part (Calc classes, Physics, etc) but then the recitations are on the smaller side.

His projects class last year was on the small side.

My point is, don't assume that the larger university will swallow him up. It really depends on the major, etc.

Nothing can MAKE your grandson learn more. He needs to be motivated to want to learn. It really just depends on what the best fit is for him for what he wants to do.
 
Old 08-29-2013, 09:50 AM
 
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It will really depends on his learning style but colleges like you have outlined are what our kids wanted and prefer. I'm not a fan of 500 student lecture classes either
 
Old 08-29-2013, 10:09 AM
 
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Do you think these are things that will make my Grandson learn more than his second option at a large University of 60,000 students?
Yes.
60K students! Way too easy to find people who want to party.
On the other hand, St. John’s College would make it easy to study.
 
Old 08-29-2013, 10:20 AM
 
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Yes.
60K students! Way too easy to find people who want to party.
On the other hand, St. John’s College would make it easy to study.

There are plenty of people partying in small schools as well.
 
Old 08-29-2013, 10:21 AM
 
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I did better at a private school that had smaller class sizes than I did at a state school that had larger classes. I think it depends on the person.
 
Old 08-29-2013, 10:23 AM
 
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Old 08-29-2013, 10:24 AM
 
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There are plenty of people partying in small schools as well.
lol! Exactly. If parents think that small college = less partying or no partying or better studying, they are delusional.

And big university does not mean everyone parties. There are plenty who don't. They just need to find those people if that is the environment they want to be a part of. Our son was in the engineering dorms last year when living on campus. The "partying" that went on on the weekends was gaming. Other than that, it was a very quiet dorm. Although he still chose to come home most weekends. He heard many horror stories though about what went on in other dorms.
 
Old 08-29-2013, 10:28 AM
 
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One of my Grandchildren is looking at colleges and is considering a small college where they promise that the majority of the classes will have no more than 15 students. Here is some other things that they promise and say makes the learning experience better:

1) No Adjuncts

2) No Teaching Assistants from overseas, all classes are taught by the actual professor

3) While the Professors do research, their research is a secondary concern, their teaching is their primary responsibility

4) 90% of the students will have at least one semester abroad

5) Nearly everyone will have at least one internship in their field before graduation

6) 90% of the students graduated from the top ten percent of their class and as a result are dedicated to education, smart and hard working and this will create a better learning environment.

Do you think these are things that will make my Grandson learn more than his second option at a large University of 60,000 students?
Sounds fantastic. Most schools use TA's and adjuncts, and it's really not a good thing for anyone. What school is this? I wish I'd gone there. I never even spoke to a real professor at the large state u i went to.

Oh, except for the famous historian who didn't speak any English at all that anyone could understand, but lectured for 2 hours twice a week.
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