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Yes, we require it. We hire mostly technical people and need to know if you a) have the technical background to even begin on the job, and b) have demonstrated the ability to learn difficult material.
It may not demonstrate that you have the knowledge to do the specific job, but it does demonstrate that you have the ability to learn.
Not always true
Some students cheat their way thru or pick the easiest professor who is not tough on grading
Not always true
Some students cheat their way thru or pick the easiest professor who is not tough on grading
The instances of someone getting through an entire bachelors program that way with a high GPA is relatively low. Sure it happens, but not enough to discount GPAs altogether IMO. Obviously you have internships, extracuuriculars and recommendations as well to corroborate the candidate's skill level if you are concerned.
I'm not saying there's a huge difference between a 3.5 and a 4.0 or that GPAs are the end all be all, but for certain jobs there is a real difference in hiring a 2.4 vs a 3.5, and I would discount that due to the remote possibility of cheating.
Yes, we require it. We hire mostly technical people and need to know if you a) have the technical background to even begin on the job, and b) have demonstrated the ability to learn difficult material.
It may not demonstrate that you have the knowledge to do the specific job, but it does demonstrate that you have the ability to learn.
Who is "we?" What industry are you? What disciplines do you require college transcripts? Is that the case for every role in your company or only certain roles?
Can someone testify to any actual job applications or career interviews where they required and reviewed your college transcript? Who is doing that?
--Government jobs
--Any teaching job
--My husband works in finance, they require transcripts for all new college grads
--Another friend runs the IT department for a major corporation--all new grads are required to submit transcripts
--every internship our kids applied to required a transcript
--look up any entry level job that requires a college degree in your area and start the application process, almost all of them will ask for a GPA at minimum but most will want a transcript.
Again, we are talking entry level jobs--except for government jobs that might require one at any level--not 10+ years of experience jobs...
None I know of in the federal government. But they did ask during the polygraph "Have you ever lied about yourself to impress someone else?"
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--Any teaching job
Not my wife's, and that's been in a number of districts around the country. Showed diploma, never showed transcript.
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--My husband works in finance, they require transcripts for all new college grads
Someone else has said that, okay.
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--Another friend runs the IT department for a major corporation--all new grads are required to submit transcripts
Not mine, and I'm in Systems in a Fortune 50 company that utterly depends on Systems. They do want to see certifications, though.
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--every internship our kids applied to required a transcript
Theoretically, that's part of his education process, not a real job.
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--look up any entry level job that requires a college degree in your area and start the application process, almost all of them will ask for a GPA at minimum but most will want a transcript.
GPA is important for some science students, but not all. I am a professor and I can tell who cares about grades and who cares about learning. The pre professional health students are nuts about grades because their acceptance into medical/pharmacy/dental/vet/PA/PT school is highly influenced by GPA. The chemistry and biology majors who want to go to graduate school care a whole lot more about research and paper authorship than grades, as that is the ticket to research fellowships and grad acceptance, although a reasonable GPA is still required. Students who have an internship and a job lined up just want to pass with the minimum grades that will allow them to graduate.
When I first graduated from college but before graduate school, I worked for Procter and Gamble for two years doing analytical chemistry, and I am still great friends with my first boss, despite the fact that I left the company for grad school and academia. At the time I was not aware of how stiff the competition was for the entry level chemistry position. Years later, I asked my friend why they hired me. I asked "Was it the name on my degree? Was it my GPA? My research experience? My math double major? My stunning good looks?" After he finished laughing, he said that those things might have played a tiny part, but the most important piece that sealed the deal was the recommendation of my research adviser. He said that everything in an application is somewhat subjective, but that he can tell immediately when checking references if something is amiss, while a glowing reference seals the deal. A research adviser whose student does the bare minimum is typically not going to give the most glowing recommendation.
There are still some students who are brilliant enough to get A's despite not working hard, and there are hard working students who really care about grades but who can barely pass. As an adviser, I make sure that my students are aware of how grades, research, extracurriculars, etc. will create and limit opportunities, and I let them spend their time and effort their way.
None I know of in the federal government. But they did ask during the polygraph "Have you ever lied about yourself to impress someone else?"
Not my wife's, and that's been in a number of districts around the country. Showed diploma, never showed transcript.
Someone else has said that, okay.
Not mine, and I'm in Systems in a Fortune 50 company that utterly depends on Systems. They do want to see certifications, though.
Theoretically, that's part of his education process, not a real job.
Nope.
Ask your wife what she had to supply for her FIRST job...we are not talking about jobs after that...but you seem to keep coming back to that. Everyone else here is telling you that you are wrong but I guess I don't know what else to do to convince you otherwise so I guess you are right???
From the application section for a job listing in our area for a government position:
Cover letter and Resume
Military Discharge Separation Papers DD214 showing box 24: Character of
Service (If Applicable)
Copy of Education Diplomas and/or Certificates and Transcripts
Ask your wife what she had to supply for her FIRST job...we are not talking about jobs after that...but you seem to keep coming back to that. Everyone else here is telling you that you are wrong but I guess I don't know what else to do to convince you otherwise so I guess you are right???
From the application section for a job listing in our area for a government position:
Cover letter and Resume
Military Discharge Separation Papers DD214 showing box 24: Character of
Service (If Applicable)
Copy of Education Diplomas and/or Certificates and Transcripts
My 28-year-old daughter has not had to supply a transcript with job applications either, not even for the same Fortune 50 company I work for. It was never requested.
Of course it's true. I've gotten several Cs and was still able to get into a competitive program.
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