04-28-2012, 10:48 AM
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Not sure if I got this posted into correct forum first time. If a repeat, sorry!
Looking for what I currently don't have where we live now. Asking for family w/ school age children, college grad parents, work for military/fed gov't.
Have read some of the forum here, looking for more specifics. Want a smaller suburb to live in near Co Spgs.
Weather: Where I am now, it's winter easily 6 months of year. Which I don't mind as long as those mnths have SNOW. Like snow. Hate grey cold w/out snow. Hate relentless wind in any season. So what is Co Spgs and various suburbs specifics like in that regard? I am aware that where I live in the mts of WA that answer can differ even within a few miles. Our home sits between 2 mts and we have constant snow on ground all winter and not much wind while in town they melt snow melt snow and yuck mud a lot. Another area gets lots of wind along with little snow because it is more open. Roughly same 20 mile radius.
Summers are hot and dry and forest fires abound and if you don't irrigate you get nada and yet frosts in Late May and early Sept. Forget growing a tomato w/out a greenhouse.
Next, here we have more or less level roads passable even in winter because it is a terminal morraine flat between mts. Is Colo Spgs like that ? Or will I be driving more mt passes and steep roads that may be impassible in winter? Roads are good year round with repairs minimal.
Traffic: We have a lot of free parking here and not too much congestion. Even malls are free open parking as opposed to paid garages. How is it there?
Culture: None here. No art or music taught in schools. No marching band. No one has heard of Shakespeare. No museums. No children's science hands on. No zoo.
Tourism and desire or ability to market themselves to create jobs: Zero. Can't even rent a canoe to go on the ubiquitous river. (And most local grads wouldn't know definition of ubiquitous) Big cattle and open range river town that hates anything that will change their fence-post-shaped family trees and probably fairly racist to boot, as mostly all white. However lots of retirees here raising their grandkids because mom and pop can't find work. Lots of big fish in small town mentality. What is Colo Spgs various suburbs like?
Neighborhoods/schools. We are aware that here we can point and say over there is the pot-head crowd living in the mts. Over there is the skin heads. Over there is the Russian speaking neighborhoods. Over there is the artsy fartsy high-end organic crowd of imports from CA. Over there is the poorer Indian Res towns that everyone here avoids like some plague. Over there is the town completely surrounded by properties owned by one man's real estate snarfing. Over there is the town that makes its money on the cop at the speed trap at the 35mph sign. Fill me in on Color Spgs neighborhood specifics.
Water: What are wells like (quantity and quality neighborhood specific) in Co spngs or water in general when looking for homes or land? Have some heavy sulfur here. some uranium problems, some heavy iron. Some 1/4 gal min wells.
Horses: can you find free shavings for stalls or do most folks not even use a barn/stalls? Or is it all buy shavings by the bag and pay big for it? (Here although timber country all the used to be free shavings go to Avista electric to make electricity from hog fuel and so none left for horse stalls)
Homes: Lots of nice land here has a doublewide plopped on it. Always on the cheap. Few 2-story homes of any kind. really don't know why. Not tornado area... What is general feel of neighborhoods in Co Spgs?
and what are home prices like? Taxes like? general overall feeling of intrusiveness of gov't in building and permitting and weed control and the like?
Trash: lots of locals dump into the woods or burn plastic because of lousy system for trash pick up (or general stupidity?). No rural dumpster sites. Must haul to landfill in rural areas.
Appreciate any and all input! Thanks.
04-28-2012, 11:23 AM
Location: Santa Fe, NM
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I can address the horse shavings question. I don't know of anywhere where you can get free shavings. Have to buy them by the bag here. Some places have paper shavings, but I have never used them.
Some people do not keep their horses in stalls or barn so in that case you would not need shavings, but you would probably need some sort of run-in shed to give your horse shelter from the wind and elements. However, grass is not lush here and normally a pasture will not support horses for long before it gets overgrazed, so expect to be buying hay, probably year round.
04-29-2012, 08:44 PM
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Weather wise, what you are experiencing isn't too far off of Colo Spgs, imo. We get some bad winds, but it's not relentless, all the time. We don't get a lot of snow here- lots of people complain about it, but I think General Palmer had the right idea when he settled Colo Spgs, back when a bad snowstorm really crippled the town. We are in a dry spell, so it's not going to be easy to plant this year.
I don't know if you have the right idea of Colorado Springs, simply based on your post- so correct me if I'm wrong. Colorado Springs isn't really that big of a city to warrant "suburbs". It's a very well spread out city, with various areas of urban areas. It quickly goes out to rural, however. I'm a teacher and a student brought in *her* goat to roam the hallways on Senior prank day.
I'm not sure what you are looking for, as it seems you are looking for a bit more rural? With land? Do you want to live in the mountains (Divide/Woodland Park and south) or do you want to live on the plains?
Roads are passable if people actually plow them. Only a handful of mountain passes impassable in the winter, and that's deeper into the mountains off the Continental Divide.
We base ourselves off of tourism, but the ability to effectively market ourselves is quite in question. Just ask any local about the attempt at "Live it up!"
I think you'll find quite a bit more cultural things here as far as schools, but it isn't anything compared to what you'd find in a bigger city, like Denver or larger.
A lot of the things you are frustrated with will be echoed here in the Springs, and I'd even say anywhere, honestly. Pockets of neighborhoods stereotyped and ragged on, that's here too. Students who graduate who have no clue how to write sentences, that's here too. Colorado has one of the lowest per-pupil spending in the country.
HoAs have a ton of power here. If you are going to move into one of the multitudes of new developments in town, you'll be stuck with a HOA, and I've heard some doozies of stories around some of them.
Traffic would be a lot worse than what you're used to. Still, traffic here is much better than a lot of other places in the country.
Neighborhoods in Colorado Springs range from multi-million dollar estates that sprawl, to small shacks. You can get a house on any size plot you'd want, really, and you can get old houses that were made turn of the century or build your own. Lots of people build their own in the sea of houses on the east/northeast side of town. Lots of prairie with pockets of closely packed in houses. Pricing depends on size of lot, so I'd just look on zillow or some colorado real estate page to get an idea of houses available.
04-30-2012, 11:55 AM
Location: Colorado
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Really? That's a lot of questions. Some of them are very subjective but I'll add my perspective. It sounds like you might be happy living up the pass, maybe in Green Mountain Falls, Cascade, Chipita Park, or Woodland Park. They are up Ute Pass a bit. The pass is four lanes and well maintained. We do have some killer wind but mostly not. You will not find year round snow here. It's actually a good thing. The sun comes out and melts the snow so it never piles up and looks dirty.
Colorado Springs has so much to do. We have a zoo, museums, Pikes Peak Center, and on and on. It's easy to find out about all of them.
You might also like Cheyenne Canon area. It's close to the Springs and it's beautiful and generally gets more snow. It is in school district 12 which is very good.
I'd stay away from the way east part of town. IMO ugly, windy, not much for vegetation, cookie-cutter houses.
For trash pick-up you have to pay private company. There are several to choose from and they're good.
We are classified as semi-arid. Low humidity. I love it.
Good luck to you. I think you'll be happy here.
05-01-2012, 01:10 PM
Location: Canon City, Colorado
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Turkey Canyon area on highway 115 just minutes to the south of COS sounds like a great fit!!!!
05-02-2012, 11:26 PM
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Stay away from the southern end of COS, unless you go more southwest into the Broadmoor area but that's expensive. A lot of people might recommend Fountain which is more or less a suburb of the Springs, but unless you stay a bit east along the Hancock Expressway, then Fountain isn't really that nice. Lots of industry, old neighborhoods, and decrepit strip malls. The places around B St, anywhere on Academy south of Platte, Chelton, Fountain Blvd, S Circle-These should all be avoided. East Platte isn't that great either (along Galley Rd, Powers, etc). There's some nice newer developments near the airport out on the Proby Parkway, and anything in North COS is very nice. The further north you go the better, as a general rule.
Traffic is fast compared to a really big city, but there's still highways that can get very congested. I-25 during rush hour, Fillmore is almost always crowded, Nevada Ave, CO-21 is probably the most crowded freeway in the Springs, Acadamy gets crowded at its ends, and Platte can get congested, highway 29 is down to one lane these days so it's very slow. Various other highways and major roads can get congested. Starting next year, I-25 is going to be widened so it will be very crowded and slow during that time.
Parking is free throughout the city until you get into the direct downtown area of course. There's parking meters and many lots and garages. You can get monthly passes and reloadable cards that can be used in any city regulated parking center though which might be good if you live in or near downtown.
05-03-2012, 06:20 AM
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Hancock Expressway is not in Fountain at all? You seem to be thinking of the southern boundaries of Harrison District 2?
Fountain has older and newer areas, some very vibrant and some more run down, but it is a normal middle-class/ working-class neighborhood - nothing fancy, but plenty of people really like it. Some of the shopping centers in Fountain are pretty old, but they are actually mostly full of real, live, open businesses these days. The same said above would apply to the Security/Widefield area which is just north and/or east of Fountain (depending on where you are).
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Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)