02-20-2009, 10:58 PM
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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When did "Pueblo" become a "major city"?
I believe Denver is the only one that can truly claim the title of "major city".
Major city means more then just population but what kind of area it anchors. For example Aurora is a lot bigger then Pueblo but because it is a suburb of Denver does not anchor a region where Pueblo anchors all of southern Colorado, thus, Pueblo is more important to southern Colorado then Aurora is to northern Colorado making Pueblo a "major" city.
02-20-2009, 11:11 PM
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Hahaha!
I have often wanted to "hijack" Jossie's threads to sing the praises of Canon City but, I can't type that fast!!HA!
I grew up in Denver, lived in Arvada...raised a son in Aurora......but Canon City, well, I'll keep it to myself!
You guys are too much fun, I swear!!
I can actually see Canon City outgrowing Pueblo in the near future.
Canon City is located closer to the mountains. It has lower crime and lower unemployment. It is closer to attractions such as skiing and Royal Gorge. It has close enough access to the Pueblo Resevoir which is located toward Canon City from Pueblo. Canon City has other natural lakes nearby. It is located upstream on the Arkansas from Pueblo (gets the water first and gets to pollute it first). There are lots of 35+ acre parcels available around Canon City that have trees, hills, mountains in and around. The only thing about Canon City compared to Pueblo that is a disadvantage is that I-25 does not run right through the city - however, 115 is a beautiful scenic drive between Colorado Springs and Canon City - the same can't be said about I-25 between Pueblo and Colorado Springs.
02-20-2009, 11:15 PM
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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I can actually see Canon City outgrowing Pueblo in the near future.
I think Canon City will grow and is a important part of our region but the big issue for them is lack of rail lines thus making it hard for major industries to move there.
Another factor is I don't think Canon City wants to be as big as Pueblo, maybe 50,000 but that's it. I could be wrong but talking to the people who live there I just don't get a sense that I do from talking to people in Pueblo about wanting their town to grow like we do.
02-20-2009, 11:25 PM
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Major city means more then just population but what kind of area it anchors. For example Aurora is a lot bigger then Pueblo but because it is a suburb of Denver does not anchor a region where Pueblo anchors all of southern Colorado, thus, Pueblo is more important to southern Colorado then Aurora is to northern Colorado making Pueblo a "major" city.
Well, the people of Hays, KS will be happy to know they live in a "major city" then. And the people of Tonopah, NV. And we can't forget Pinedale, WY...
Are paved streets a requirement?
02-20-2009, 11:41 PM
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Well, the people of Hays, KS will be happy to know they live in a "major city" then. And the people of Tonopah, NV. And we can't forget Pinedale, WY...
Are paved streets a requirement?
I do not know the dynamics of those states to make a informed comment, I can say that Pueblo is known as a anchor of southern Colorado and in fact people come from as far away as northern New Mexico to shop here. The proof of that is Pueblo is a sales tax net-gainer, that means that more people shop here then the local population would indicate. That makes Pueblo a important city for southern Colorado and a "major" city.
02-20-2009, 11:43 PM
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I think Canon City will grow and is a important part of our region but the big issue for them is lack of rail lines thus making it hard for major industries to move there.
Sometimes it doesn't matter what the city wants. Like with the project that is supposed to bring 200,000 new homes to Pueblo - if the only people that buy the new homes are people from Pueblo leaving an older home, then there is no growth and more strain/devaluing of the housing market causing the attempt to have 200,000 new homes to stop.
Trucking is a major industry in the US! In fact, railyards being a few minutes to 1/2 hour outside of the city can be a benefit allowing easier city growth and planning......never mind, there are rail lines going through Canon City and a railyard in Canon City.
It looks like Canon City, Florence, Rockvale, and Penrose will merge together within a couple years. Canon City, Prospect Heights, Brookside, and Lincoln Park have already merged.
Hey, you should probably start a Canon City vs. Pueblo thread. It is a much better comparison that the Colorado Springs vs. Pueblo threads you posted under Colorado, Colorado Springs, and City vs City forum areas.
02-20-2009, 11:51 PM
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Sometimes it doesn't matter what the city wants. Like with the project that is supposed to bring 200,000 new homes to Pueblo - if the only people that buy the new homes are people from Pueblo leaving an older home, then there is no growth and more strain/devaluing of the housing market causing the attempt to have 200,000 new homes to stop.
Except that the developers from Las Vegas developing Pueblo Springs will also develop a tech park that will be the largest in the state and they will get some main companies to move there and start the tech park by:
1 - Building the building and giving it to the company
2 - Paying for the companies moving expense
3 - Paying for the companies employees moving expense.
Plus there is the new industrial park south of town that is growing with the new Vesta's plant that combined with its suppliers eventually employ over 1,000 people.
Not to mention the other developments planned for the area.
02-20-2009, 11:54 PM
Location: Pueblo, CO
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As I view this thread. I really understand why my wife & I will be starting a church in Pueblo. We will be moving to Pueblo in June. We are very excited. We were youth pastors in Aurora, CO several years back and enjoyed the area. We lived in Amarillo, TX and have made many trips to and from Denver. We would obviously drive through Pueblo and to be honest with you I never would have considered Pueblo as a place to live. But for some reason there is a great love in my heart for the people and the community of Pueblo, CO. I know that may sound weird, but all I can say is God knows what he is doing. He is leading us to Pueblo for a reason and we intend to find out why. We are going to embrace Pueblo as our own and we pray that Pueblo will embrace us as their own, even though we are not from there. God bless you all and I thoroughly enjoy your posts.
02-20-2009, 11:54 PM
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Except that the developers from Las Vegas developing Pueblo Springs will also develop a tech park that will be the largest in the state and they will get some main companies to move there and start the tech park by:
Again, those are things Pueblo wants but havn't happened yet.
02-21-2009, 12:04 AM
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Well Pueblo has already annexed the lariat around Pueblo Springs and Buffie Mcfadden is the local consultant and the rest should be annexed by mid year.
The article:
"Pueblo West state Rep. Liane "Buffie" McFadyen will be representing a Nevada company in Pueblo as it continues its efforts to have more than 24,000 acres north of the city annexed."
The link:
http://www.chieftain.com/articles/2009/01/04/news/local/doc496058af4a111710484169.txt
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People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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I believe Denver is the only one that can truly claim the title of "major city". 
I have often wanted to "hijack" Jossie's threads to sing the praises of Canon City but, I can't type that fast!!HA!
Are paved streets a requirement?
