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Old 10-11-2016, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Hello all, I am exploring cities for a possible future move and Columbus is on my list. I was wondering what are the more urban areas of your city? In your opinions, does Columbus feel overall more urban than Cleveland?
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Old 10-12-2016, 06:46 AM
 
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I lived near Cleveland my whole life, and moved to Columbus 5 years ago. There are definitely areas of the city that feel urban, but the more time I'm here, the smaller and smaller it feels. I think the residential neighborhoods that feel most urban are Victorian Village, Italian Village, German Village, Olde Towne East. The biggest difference I see in the two cities is the lack of urban commercial/retail space in the neighborhoods surrounding downtown. I look at the main streets in Lakewood and see tons of restaurants, bars, shops, etc. In Columbus, outside of the Short North area, the retail and commercial streetscapes are lacking. What part of Cleveland are you from?
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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I lived near Cleveland my whole life, and moved to Columbus 5 years ago. There are definitely areas of the city that feel urban, but the more time I'm here, the smaller and smaller it feels. I think the residential neighborhoods that feel most urban are Victorian Village, Italian Village, German Village, Olde Towne East. The biggest difference I see in the two cities is the lack of urban commercial/retail space in the neighborhoods surrounding downtown. I look at the main streets in Lakewood and see tons of restaurants, bars, shops, etc. In Columbus, outside of the Short North area, the retail and commercial streetscapes are lacking. What part of Cleveland are you from?
Same here. Raised in Cleveland, been here in Columbus for 16 years. It isn't even close. Downtown here is dead at night, unless there is a Blue Jackets game, and really, that doesn't do much either. The Short North is OK at best. Way overrated.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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I lived near Cleveland my whole life, and moved to Columbus 5 years ago. There are definitely areas of the city that feel urban, but the more time I'm here, the smaller and smaller it feels. I think the residential neighborhoods that feel most urban are Victorian Village, Italian Village, German Village, Olde Towne East. The biggest difference I see in the two cities is the lack of urban commercial/retail space in the neighborhoods surrounding downtown. I look at the main streets in Lakewood and see tons of restaurants, bars, shops, etc. In Columbus, outside of the Short North area, the retail and commercial streetscapes are lacking. What part of Cleveland are you from?
You see, that's how I feel about Cleveland. There really aren't any strips of active, lively retail in the city outside of downtown. Most strips are all vacant or are full of cell phone stores, barber shops, or convenient stores. I hate it. Yea Lakewood is very lively and urban, but that is not Cleveland proper. I mean you have Ohio City, but that's rinky dink in my opinion; its just a few blocks.

I've lived all over Cleveland. I'm currently in the West Park neighborhood.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:17 AM
 
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Same here. Raised in Cleveland, been here in Columbus for 16 years. It isn't even close. Downtown here is dead at night, unless there is a Blue Jackets game, and really, that doesn't do much either. The Short North is OK at best. Way overrated.
It's funny because every time I am back to visit, I immediately notice that urban activity has very noticeably increased. I think that people living there are perhaps not going to notice change as much, just because it happens at a pace that is less obvious day to day, but when you start to honestly compare to where things were 1 year or 5 years or 10 years ago, it's dramatic.
I disagree that Downtown is all dead at night. There are a steadily increasing number of restaurants/bars in the area- probably more now than there's been in 40 years at least.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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It's funny because every time I am back to visit, I immediately notice that urban activity has very noticeably increased. I think that people living there are perhaps not going to notice change as much, just because it happens at a pace that is less obvious day to day, but when you start to honestly compare to where things were 1 year or 5 years or 10 years ago, it's dramatic.
I disagree that Downtown is all dead at night. There are a steadily increasing number of restaurants/bars in the area- probably more now than there's been in 40 years at least.
Yea, downtown is doing well. It is very built up and urban, but outside of downtown, there isn't much in terms of urbanity. I more interested in urban living/neighborhoods outside of downtown. I really don't go downtown much. You can't really live there unless you're willing to pay an arm and a leg, which I'm not. Many Clevelanders are homers (I used to be one), but I'm sick of the city. There are HUGE portions where people just don't go due to blight and crime. It's ridiculous in my opinion. I really like Lakewood and I feel that is by far the most urban part of the Cleveland area and it's not even in the city proper.

Edit: whoops, was totally referring to Cleveland in my post! sorry
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:47 AM
 
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The Short North is awesome. Apart from transit what is it lacking exactly? You have great restaurants, bars, shops, hotels, art galleries, theaters, parks, a thriving LGBT community etc.

German Village
Victorian Village
Grandview Ave
Arena District
University District
Italian Village
Olde Town East
Gay Street Corridor
Brewery District
Weinland Park

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Old 10-12-2016, 11:31 AM
 
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You see, that's how I feel about Cleveland. There really aren't any strips of active, lively retail in the city outside of downtown. Most strips are all vacant or are full of cell phone stores, barber shops, or convenient stores. I hate it. Yea Lakewood is very lively and urban, but that is not Cleveland proper. I mean you have Ohio City, but that's rinky dink in my opinion; its just a few blocks.

I've lived all over Cleveland. I'm currently in the West Park neighborhood.


If you move to Columbus you will NOT feel like you are stuck in some small town. Quite honestly, I still think back fondly on my first year down here and absolutely loved discovering all of the cool neighborhoods Columbus has. You should definitely come down for a visit and check out the Short North and German Village. They are the most unique neighborhoods near Downtown.

You are right about Ohio City, it is quite small compared to the Short North. Maybe I secretly just miss Cleveland! Regardless, I think you might really enjoy Columbus, it's worth the 2 hour drive!
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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I'm sure downtown Columbus is a lot better than it was 30 years ago, long before I moved here. But saying Cleveland and Columbus are similar in their downtown cores is a little ridiculous. I see new construction all the time in downtown Cleveland, here in Columbus, next to nothing.


I'm not knocking Columbus, but just saying as a resident who has lived in both cities, Columbus still has that small town feel to it.
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Cbus
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I'm sure downtown Columbus is a lot better than it was 30 years ago, long before I moved here. But saying Cleveland and Columbus are similar in their downtown cores is a little ridiculous. I see new construction all the time in downtown Cleveland, here in Columbus, next to nothing.


I'm not knocking Columbus, but just saying as a resident who has lived in both cities, Columbus still has that small town feel to it.
Not to be rude but just because you don't pay attention doesn't mean that development is happening. It's actually occurring pretty rapidly in Columbus and if anything much of the city feels like it's under construction.

Projects that have been recently completed or are underway in the core of Columbus:

Scioto Mile
Columbus Commons
Expansion of the Columbus Center
The complete renewal of high street in The University District
The 12 story Park edge condos in The Arena District
The New Coleman Government Center
Grandview Yard
The Normandy apartments downtown on Long Street
Standard Hall in The Short North
New homes in Italian Village's Jefferey Park
Northside Library
New office space near Huntington Park
Hubbard Park Place in Victorian Village
The Jerome Apartment Buildings in Victorian Village
The King Avenue Apartments
The Olympic in Clintonville
Bike lanes on Summit
The new Nationwide Children's Hospital Building
The new five story mixed use apartment building on town and 5th downtown
The LC Riversouth Building
The Ohio Veterans Museum in Franklinton
Aston Row townhomes in Victorian Village
Sixth Street condos downtown
The new Middle West Distillery
The Truberry on Second Condo in Victorian Village
The Joseph Hotel in the Short North
The 8 story city of Columbus Garbage downtown on Long Street
The Rogue fitness manufacturing facility in Milo-Grogan
New single family homes in Weinland Park
The Burwell in Italian Village
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