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Old 05-12-2023, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Outside US
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I've been using computers almost daily since I bought a Pentium in May of 1995....that is 28 years.

After using desktops I started buying and using laptops around 2004.

I only use my laptop at home and rarely travel with it.

My first Acer lasted a full 8 years before dying of old age.....it was a tank.

I've had 2 since then.

My latest is an ASUS PC I bought 4 years and 3 months ago.

It takes a while to get going a few times per week...freezing up/locking up.

It seems clunky.

It automatically defrags like all laptops do now....?

Planned obsolescence? Made with cheaper parts now (in China).

Not made to last?

How many years do you think a laptop lasts these days?



TIA
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Old 05-12-2023, 02:13 AM
 
Location: PNW
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I am a heavy laptop user. I never run mine more than 4 years (usually 2-3).
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Old 05-12-2023, 03:17 AM
 
Location: Kaliforneea
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the battery is designed to last about 3 years. Since I'm a cheap bastard, I make mine last 5-7 years.




I only like "high-end laptops" for my daily driver, my nvidia RTX-3060 based gaming laptop was almost $1800 after I got done tricking it out with 2 x 2TB 10Gbe nvme's + 64GB of RAM. I am planning on it lasting 5+ years just to get my ROI back..


For parts made in China vs say, Japan or elsewhere - that was a thing 5+ years ago with "bulging capacitors". All parts are NOT the same, there are grades and quality levels, same as wine or cars or a wooden table.


As a guy who has repaired laptops and tablets and phones, there ARE less replace-able parts these days, compared to 10 or 20 years ago - or what was simply a single FRU in a prior gen is now a one-piece-whole-kit-and-kaboodle assembly. For example, some manufacturers wil soldier the DIMMs and CPU to the motherboard, thus making it un-replaceable for 99% of people. This is part of the "Right to Repair Laws", where we have to sue & fine xxxhole companies like Apple.
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Old 05-12-2023, 06:16 AM
 
Location: IN>Germany>ND>OH>TX>CA>Currently NoVa and a Vacation Lake House in PA
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I've got an HP DV6-6135DX that is 12 years old and still holds a decent charge. It is a pretty beefy model that was meant as a desktop replacement with great graphics for the time. I've also got a Toshiba Ultralight that is a year newer and hasn't held a charge for several years, but still works great attached to a TV for accessing movies on my server.

They've both been plugged in around 95% of their lives. The ironic part is the battery in the HP is easily replacable, but the Toshiba would have to be completely taken apart and not a job for the faint of heart.
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Old 05-12-2023, 06:21 AM
 
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Everyone should be using a SSD now, not a hard disk drive. SSD's don't "defrag".
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Old 05-12-2023, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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I promise you no one is building laptops and planning their obsolescence. They don't want to earn a reputation that they make crap. If I buy a laptop and it NEEDS replaced in 3 years? I'm buying someone else next time.

Bottom line is the more you spend upfront, the longer your laptop is going to last. Few things fry me more then someone that pays $400 for a computer and constantly complains how bad it is. This same person then buys an Apple for $2,000 and proceeds to rave about it and complain even more about Windows.
Spend $2,000 on a Windows laptop and it will be every bit as good, maybe even better.


I bought my current laptop 7 years ago. 7. I can't even believe it. Never been upgraded, battery lasts about 30 minutes, I haven't even had to refresh windows...and it STILL doesn't need replaced. It was $850 on sale for just under $700. And it was an actual sale because the following week the price went back to $850 (I rarely trust 'sales' on computers...usually just a way to discontinue old stock).
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Old 05-12-2023, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Outside US
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Thanks to all of you for all of your replies.

I read all of them and "liked" them.

A little extra info to the wise words directly above me: I spent about $620 USD in Asia for this ASUS.

Cheers everyone.
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Old 05-12-2023, 09:23 AM
 
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There's a Youtuber for NorthRidgeFix that says he sees more recurring ASUS issues than anyone else. You can search ASUS in his page and there are dozens of videos on ASUS repairs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9yYi-7JddQ
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Old 05-12-2023, 11:30 AM
 
Location: PNW
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I have good luck with the Lenovo Thinkpads. Mostly I buy them New off their Outlet. The best time to buy is July.
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Old 05-12-2023, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Toney, Alabama
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I buy Dell remanufactured laptops, and they've been lasting 4-5 years.

The new I-7 model is very fast and it's running on Windows 11 which takes a little while to get used to. My old I-5 just didn't have enough RAM I assume.

The new laptop doesn't look like it's ever been used. May be a inventory liquidation unit out of the warehouse.
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