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Old 05-08-2016, 06:56 AM
 
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Good god, really? Thanks for your soliloquy, much appreciated
Well, you're being ridiculous. More and more people from all walks of life are coming forward and talking about their own or family member's battle with addiction. The CDC and FDA have revisited the use of opioids, while police departments and local governments are holding forums left and right about how to combat this locally. Yet you still think one's addiction is much ado about nothing and addicts can simply stop cold turkey.

 
Old 05-08-2016, 08:13 AM
 
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Yet you still think one's addiction is much ado about nothing and addicts can simply stop cold turkey.
If anyone actually thinks someone with an addiction problem can stop cold turkey.... they are a moron..
 
Old 05-08-2016, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Well, you're being ridiculous. More and more people from all walks of life are coming forward and talking about their own or family member's battle with addiction. The CDC and FDA have revisited the use of opioids, while police departments and local governments are holding forums left and right about how to combat this locally. Yet you still think one's addiction is much ado about nothing and addicts can simply stop cold turkey.
Most people I knew that overdosed were clean for a while and then went back to it. Seems to be a pattern.
 
Old 05-08-2016, 08:48 AM
 
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Most people I knew that overdosed were clean for a while and then went back to it. Seems to be a pattern.
Relapsing after being clean is a vicious cycle and goes to show that regardless of how long someone is clean for, their body still begs for their drug of choice. It's a sad thing.
 
Old 05-08-2016, 08:58 AM
 
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Most people I knew that overdosed were clean for a while and then went back to it. Seems to be a pattern.
Which goes to show what a dangerous physical addiction it is. Look at Phillip Seymour Hoffman. Clean for 22 years.
 
Old 05-08-2016, 09:00 AM
 
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Additionally, tolerance typically decreases after a period of abstinence. If this occurs and the user takes a dose comparable to their previous use, the user may experience drug effects that are much greater than expected, potentially resulting in a dangerous overdose.
 
Old 05-08-2016, 09:00 AM
 
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A teenager who breaks multiple bones in an accident and is prescribed pain killers by "a doctor" for substantial pain is not thinking they are making a bad choice to take the "medicine" the doctor prescribed for that purpose. If the result is that the instructions, dosage or the medicine itself is likely to result in a high level of subsequent addiction then regulations, formulation and substitution of other medicines need to take place to address this problem. If a profit margin or financial cost savings is the overriding factor in what to do then we have a bigger problem.
None of the druggie kids in my school got "hooked" by a legitimate medical prescription. not one.

That being said, I had no idea the problem was this bad. Kids weren't dying from it 10 years ago in HSs. They just grew up to be loser POS, but the types of kids doing it were the ones you expected to become loser POS anyway. The term "epidemic" (if not a medi tramp word) implies the problem is crossing the barrier from your typical troubled kids to little Susie who is planning to study pre-law at Georgetown. Unlike the crack epidemic, there doesn't appear to be a lot of associated violence and gang activity, so not sure how much policing will be able to solve either. The border states need to keep this stuff from coming in. If heroin becomes rare, it becomes expensive. If it becomes cost prohibitive over prescription drugs, now we are back in control of the situation.
 
Old 05-08-2016, 09:02 AM
 
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None of the druggie kids in my school got "hooked" by a legitimate medical prescription. not one.
Maybe it's a newer issue? No one I know that was into it got hooked via prescription drugs either, but I graduated in the early 2000's.
 
Old 05-08-2016, 09:07 AM
 
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Maybe it's a newer issue? No one I know that was into it got hooked via prescription drugs either, but I graduated in the early 2000's.
Mid 2000 here. It was available, but perceived as a sleeze ball drug like crack. Prescription drugs were starting to become popular (oxy- and such) but again only among your stereotypical groups. Far from epidemic and deaths etc. kids coked out cramming for SATs would at least have logic behind it, this heroin/prescription drug thing is just meaningless and destructive.

The one person I knew closely that got addicted to heroin tore his family apart. He caused so much stress it was so awful. His family were good people, but as an individual, he was always into one drug or another it was just heroin that got him for good. He will be on symboxone (sp?) for the rest of his life unles something better comes out.
 
Old 05-08-2016, 09:24 AM
 
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Maybe it's a newer issue? No one I know that was into it got hooked via prescription drugs either, but I graduated in the early 2000's.
Nearly all addicts Im familiar with (who graduated HS from '09-15) started off with a prescription for a painkiller. All except one.

I guess it could be a "newer" issue. I'm not sure how it compares to those who graduated in the mid 00s.

Bottom line is doctors who liberally write scripts are very much to blame.
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