[EUPL]

#nevertrump

[Blargrifth]

I would never vote for either Trump or Clinton but I don't understand those who are saying "I hate both but prefer Clinton". If you had to vote for someone who you knew is going to be an awful president, why would you prefer one with a gang of sycophants in Washington to the outsider who is going to have questionable support from both parties.

Or do something reasonable and vote third party.

[EUPL]

Originally Posted by Blargrifth

I would never vote for either Trump or Clinton but I don't understand those who are saying "I hate both but prefer Clinton". If you had to vote for someone who you knew is going to be an awful president, why would you prefer one with a gang of sycophants in Washington to the outsider who is going to have questionable support from both parties.

Or do something reasonable and vote third party.

I voted for Sanders but will now support Clinton even though I can't stand her. The reason for this is because Trump is filled with hatred and he is a bigot. He has no concrete plans expect to build a stupid wall, I honestly question the IQ/sanity of anyone who voted for him.

[Blargrifth]

Originally Posted by EUPL

I voted for Sanders but will now support Clinton even though I can't stand her. The reason for this is because Trump is filled with hatred and he is a bigot. He has no concrete plans expect to build a stupid wall, I honestly question the IQ/sanity of anyone who voted for him.

Well this is the other thing that I don't understand: where is this hateful bigot nonsense coming from? I hear protesters saying things like "z0mg he thinks all Mexicans are racists!!!11" based on one comment that he made a year ago. Why not criticize his actual policy? There is plenty to dislike about it, but so many of these nevertrump people make themselves look like ignorant fools by trying to frame him as a bigot with no real substance behind their argument.

[EUPL]

Originally Posted by Blargrifth

Well this is the other thing that I don't understand: where is this hateful bigot nonsense coming from? I hear protesters saying things like "z0mg he thinks all Mexicans are racists!!!11" based on one comment that he made a year ago. Why not criticize his actual policy? There is plenty to dislike about it, but so many of these nevertrump people make themselves look like ignorant fools by trying to frame him as a bigot with no real substance behind their argument.

are you serious?


"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bring crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people.”


“If I were running ‘The View’, I’d fire Rosie O’Donnell. I mean, I’d look at her right in that fat, ugly face of hers, I’d say ‘Rosie, you’re fired.’”


Here Are 9 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist

[FutureTown]

Originally Posted by Blargrifth

Well this is the other thing that I don't understand: where is this hateful bigot nonsense coming from? I hear protesters saying things like "z0mg he thinks all Mexicans are racists!!!11" based on one comment that he made a year ago. Why not criticize his actual policy? There is plenty to dislike about it, but so many of these nevertrump people make themselves look like ignorant fools by trying to frame him as a bigot with no real substance behind their argument.

It's easy to criticize his policies as well because the things he says is bad enough, you know the end result is also bad. For example, the wall cannot be paid by Mexico because the money that Mexico "owes" us is not the money by government to government but by several independent people and businesses. You'd have to get several people to agree and pay for it and I don't think Trump is viewed favorably to begin with in . You can't threaten Mexico with ceasing trade or any of that sort because that will soon threaten the profits of several Fortune 500 companies and then businesses won't be happy. Very anti-Republican there, if you ask me.

Also, that wall would cost billions to build and will cost just as much money if not more to maintain it. Don't forget that they'd have to haul several tons of equipment across the country and then the labor costs with security. The wall could also be blown up on the other side if cartels wanted it to. Or you can build tunnels underneath it like the one that was discovered between Tijuana and San Diego. Either way, it would cost immense amount of money. And this doesn't even address the illegal immigrants who come through the waters into places like Florida. In other words, waste of money

Genuinely curious why Cam likes Trump so much and why mlassoff is voting for Clinton. Just want to hear your opinions, not here to debate even.

[Blargrifth]

Originally Posted by EUPL

are you serious?

"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bring crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people.”

“If I were running ‘The View’, I’d fire Rosie O’Donnell. I mean, I’d look at her right in that fat, ugly face of hers, I’d say ‘Rosie, you’re fired.’”

Here Are 9 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist

So you are confusing his attempts at gaining attention for his campaign platform. That's fine if you disagree with those statements but it is irrelevant to use those statements when trying to judge his capacity as a potential president. The post below you is a much better example on how to criticize Trump.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by Blargrifth

Well this is the other thing that I don't understand: where is this hateful bigot nonsense coming from? I hear protesters saying things like "z0mg he thinks all Mexicans are racists!!!11" based on one comment that he made a year ago. Why not criticize his actual policy? There is plenty to dislike about it, but so many of these nevertrump people make themselves look like ignorant fools by trying to frame him as a bigot with no real substance behind their argument.

I completely agree. It's simply an easy "go-to" for those who don't like him.

[RunD1987]

Voted yesterday for Sanders. If Sanders doesn't run as an Independent will vote for Jill Stein.

[kidyankee764]

One thing I've noticed: Hilary wins in the wealthier states (CT, MA, MD) while Bernie wins the poorer states. I think she'll also win California and New Jersey.