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Old 07-23-2021, 06:28 AM
 
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This is CT criminal justice reform for you. They love these criminals.
Tax money well spend.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/22/us/co...rnd/index.html
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Old 07-23-2021, 06:37 AM
 
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We are a satire skit regarding how we coddle criminals.
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Old 07-23-2021, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Live in NY, work in CT
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I have to agree this is over the top. If they are going to do this at all, it should be as a reward for "good behavior". As with the other controversial "help the criminals" bill long discussed on here, I could see NY immediately following
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Old 07-23-2021, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Milford, CT
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The private phone companies that profit from prisoner phone calls are generally charging exorbitant rates for calls that are nearly free outside prison.

Prisoners with intact families are less likely to recidivate. It is not usually the prisoners themselves paying for these calls, but the family-- many of whom are in poverty.

Children of prisoners with contact with the incarcerated parent generally do better

If you care about reducing recidivism, and at-risk kids, this is something worthy of support.

The responses here seem to be another example of wanting a criminal justice system based on retribution instead of rehabilitation.
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Old 07-23-2021, 09:10 AM
 
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IMHO, charging the inmates for calls isn't the issue. It's the ridiculously high rates charged by the private companies that provide phone service to the prisons and the kickback the state gets from the phone provider.

in 2019, CT received over $5 million from Securus representing about 68% of the charges collected by the company. CT had the third highest cost for a 15 minute call at $4.87. It's unfortunate the incarceration industrial complex is geared towards making money versus actually rehabilitation.
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Old 07-23-2021, 09:11 AM
 
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The private phone companies that profit from prisoner phone calls are generally charging exorbitant rates for calls that are nearly free outside prison.

Prisoners with intact families are less likely to recidivate. It is not usually the prisoners themselves paying for these calls, but the family-- many of whom are in poverty.

Children of prisoners with contact with the incarcerated parent generally do better

If you care about reducing recidivism, and at-risk kids, this is something worthy of support.

The responses here seem to be another example of wanting a criminal justice system based on retribution instead of rehabilitation.
A prison sentence is first and foremost a punishment. As it should be, btw. It sends a message that crimes are not to be tolerated, to all citizens.

Now if the families pay 100% of the cost of this "service", I am ok with that. If a few ex cons can be rehabilitated, that would be a nice extra. Studies show 68% commit equal crimes to what had them in jail within 2 years.
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Old 07-23-2021, 09:23 AM
 
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The private phone companies that profit from prisoner phone calls are generally charging exorbitant rates for calls that are nearly free outside prison.

Prisoners with intact families are less likely to recidivate. It is not usually the prisoners themselves paying for these calls, but the family-- many of whom are in poverty.

Children of prisoners with contact with the incarcerated parent generally do better

If you care about reducing recidivism, and at-risk kids, this is something worthy of support.

The responses here seem to be another example of wanting a criminal justice system based on retribution instead of rehabilitation.
What is this? 1982. Are they making toll calls? calling collect? even worse - using a Landline!
Smartphone plans are unlimited. Voice and Text in the US, and everyone has them, rich and poor. Everyone!
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Old 07-23-2021, 09:29 AM
 
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Maybe it’s all the other outrageous happenings in CT that dilute the rest, but this doesn’t really bother me at all.
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Old 07-23-2021, 09:32 AM
 
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IMHO, charging the inmates for calls isn't the issue. It's the ridiculously high rates charged by the private companies that provide phone service to the prisons and the kickback the state gets from the phone provider.

in 2019, CT received over $5 million from Securus representing about 68% of the charges collected by the company. CT had the third highest cost for a 15 minute call at $4.87. It's unfortunate the incarceration industrial complex is geared towards making money versus actually rehabilitation.
Agreed. I have no problem with this law.
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Old 07-23-2021, 10:10 AM
 
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The private phone companies that profit from prisoner phone calls are generally charging exorbitant rates for calls that are nearly free outside prison.

Prisoners with intact families are less likely to recidivate. It is not usually the prisoners themselves paying for these calls, but the family-- many of whom are in poverty.

Children of prisoners with contact with the incarcerated parent generally do better

If you care about reducing recidivism, and at-risk kids, this is something worthy of support.

The responses here seem to be another example of wanting a criminal justice system based on retribution instead of rehabilitation.
Studies have shown nothing, that's why no other state has this. It's just CT's radical left policies lately.
It's the same old recidivism, rehabiliation BS excuse.
What is there to rehabiliate if you know what you did is wrong and the consequences that comes with it?
They are only in there because they got caught, not because they don't know better.

Why do you think they are very likely to commit crimes again?

No, the response here is CT needs to stop enacting laws that's in favor of criminal behavior like perks like this or erasure of criminal records.

Instead, how about passing laws to prevent crimes, not passing laws that makes criminals think the state will do favors for them, when they are caught or serving time. Which only make them not hesitant to do it again.
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