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Old 02-13-2023, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Milford, CT
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No I’m singing the same tune. It’s the same old song and dance.
Teachers should not be involved in culture identity wars or religion. On their personal time is fine.
If someone is struggling and considering suicide they should seek help of anyone who will listen, you, me, a teacher, suicide hotlines, the guy on the corner, anyone.
Teachers aren't recruiting kids into transgenderism (aka "Culture War"). The imaginary culture war is being fought mostly on one side.

The law being proposed here is common sense to prevent extremely private information being exposed in a weaponized FOIA request.
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Old 02-13-2023, 08:32 AM
 
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You obviously are not a teacher or close to anyone who is. Just about any teacher will tell you that it’s impossible not to get involved or care about their students. They spend a lot of time with them so it’s normal to get to know them and be involved in their lives.

A close family member is a teacher in an inner city school. I can’t tell you how many students she has helped. That includes things like quietly giving them money for food, buying them descents clothes and providing guidance and advice on personal problems. She even helped one student who was homeless by getting a friend to take him in until he could finish school and stand on his own feet. Today he is married with a child and a good paying job. He is eternally grateful and keeps in regular contact. Many of her students do. One sends her flowers on her birthday for no reason other than she kept him on the right path when he almost strayed. Very touching. Jay
Excellently put.
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Old 02-13-2023, 08:52 AM
 
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Teachers aren't recruiting kids into transgenderism (aka "Culture War"). The imaginary culture war is being fought mostly on one side.

The law being proposed here is common sense to prevent extremely private information being exposed in a weaponized FOIA request.
"weaponize" - another scaremonger term
Maybe weoponizing FOIA requests is imaginary as well so the proggy Westport-Fairfield state reps can get in a virtual signaling photo op.
Teachers should not be involved in gender pronouns and culture wars as evidenced in the article with factual examples, there are even pics of them. Just teach the kid the subject. If a boy wants to color in the hippo purple or pink that's fine, let him. If a girl wants to shoot hoops with the boys during recess that's fine, let her. If a kid approached them for help with personal issues then they should help out, advise, or direct them to professionals as they see fit. Just like they always did before.
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Old 02-13-2023, 08:58 AM
 
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You obviously are not a teacher or close to anyone who is. Just about any teacher will tell you that it’s impossible not to get involved or care about their students. They spend a lot of time with them so it’s normal to get to know them and be involved in their lives.

A close family member is a teacher in an inner city school. I can’t tell you how many students she has helped. That includes things like quietly giving them money for food, buying them descents clothes and providing guidance and advice on personal problems. She even helped one student who was homeless by getting a friend to take him in until he could finish school and stand on his own feet. Today he is married with a child and a good paying job. He is eternally grateful and keeps in regular contact. Many of her students do. One sends her flowers on her birthday for no reason other than she kept him on the right path when he almost strayed. Very touching. Jay
Your close family member did an amazing job and should be highly commended for it, no question.
She exemplifies the true spirit of what it takes to be a successful teacher.
Now, having said that, did she ever ask her students to identify themselves by their pronouns? or care what they were in the first place? prob not
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Old 02-13-2023, 11:07 AM
 
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Depending on what grade they teach and where the school is the teacher may very well ask about pronouns. If I'm not mistaken, some CT districts have a policy requiring staff to use a students' preferred pronouns.



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Your close family member did an amazing job and should be highly commended for it, no question.
She exemplifies the true spirit of what it takes to be a successful teacher.
Now, having said that, did she ever ask her students to identify themselves by their pronouns? or care what they were in the first place? prob not
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Old 02-13-2023, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Milford, CT
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"weaponize" - another scaremonger term
Maybe weoponizing FOIA requests is imaginary as well so the proggy Westport-Fairfield state reps can get in a virtual signaling photo op.
Teachers should not be involved in gender pronouns and culture wars as evidenced in the article with factual examples, there are even pics of them. Just teach the kid the subject. If a boy wants to color in the hippo purple or pink that's fine, let him. If a girl wants to shoot hoops with the boys during recess that's fine, let her. If a kid approached them for help with personal issues then they should help out, advise, or direct them to professionals as they see fit. Just like they always did before.
Are you suggesting the word 'weaponized' has been 'weaponized'? As in the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government that Jim Jordan chairs?

I'm sure you registered your complaint about that too. Right?
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Old 02-13-2023, 02:20 PM
 
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Depending on what grade they teach and where the school is the teacher may very well ask about pronouns. If I'm not mistaken, some CT districts have a policy requiring staff to use a students' preferred pronouns.
Yes I wouldn't doubt it for one second when it comes to trendy prog states like CT. CT has probably taken this on full bore, especially in the 50K+ cities and towns. In Westport it's probably an iron-fisted mandate.
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Old 02-13-2023, 02:21 PM
 
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Are you suggesting the word 'weaponized' has been 'weaponized'?
What hasn't been weaponized?
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Old 02-13-2023, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Milford, CT
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Teachers aren't recruiting kids into transgenderism (aka "Culture War"). The imaginary culture war is being fought mostly on one side.

The law being proposed here is common sense to prevent extremely private information being exposed in a weaponized FOIA request.
It's absolutely not on one side.

There are people who think transgenderism is the next civil rights movement, and there are people who think the whole thing is mass hysteria or more akin to clowns in the circus.

If there weren't doctors prescribing dangerous and destructive drugs to children, let alone surgery, it would be a straight comedy.

But stuff like Lia Thomas? A 6'-4", 220lb DUDE declares himself a female and competes in college sports. At Princeton. How can anyone help but laugh at it?

It's not really a culture war, as the proponents of transgenderism just can't win. It's impossible.
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Old 02-13-2023, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Milford, CT
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It's absolutely not on one side.

There are people who think transgenderism is the next civil rights movement, and there are people who think the whole thing is mass hysteria or more akin to clowns in the circus.

If there weren't doctors prescribing dangerous and destructive drugs to children, let alone surgery, it would be a straight comedy.

But stuff like Lia Thomas? A 6'-4", 220lb DUDE declares himself a female and competes in college sports. At Princeton. How can anyone help but laugh at it?

It's not really a culture war, as the proponents of transgenderism just can't win. It's impossible.
I don't see "hysteria" from a single college athlete -- even if I don't agree with it.

I don't see "hysteria" in referring to people as they would prefer.

Puberty blockers and other drugs given to transgender kids aren't destructive or dangerous. Gender reassignment for folks who are transgender is often life-saving.

The fact is GLTBQ+ kids have suicide rates 5x-10x higher than hetero kids. That's worthy of intervention. The instances of it being forced on kids or encouraged can be counted on one hand. Let's not let hysteria impact what is lifesaving for many kids.
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