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Two men travelled with stolen passports on the same plane. Both passports were stolen from unrelated tourists (Italian & Austrian) in a bordering country (Thailand) about a year ago. Sounds like lots of planning went into this trip. Location of loss over the open sea guarantees also great difficulty to recover any evidence. Vicious train station attack in China by Uighurs/Muslims a week ago seems to show the opening of a new problem against China.
Other, similar scenario: TWA 800 in 1996 blew up off JFK without any warning or communication, but other planes and people on the ground saw it happening.
I think it's very easy to speculate concerning the stolen passports, but honestly we won't know anything until the flight/plane has been recovered. And even then, nothing will be 100% certain until the black box is found...
Stories like this really just break my heart and remind me of how fleeting this life we live truly is .
There are many unanswered questions because of stolen passports and identity of two passengers. There are some points to be noted:-
1) China is not a visa free country for an Austrian National and Italian National. As Passports were stolen 1 year and 2 years back, one cannot board a flight only with stolen passport. Visa is required. Chinese Embassy will require photograph of applicant and original passport for visa. Hard to believe that Chinese Embassy gave visa on stolen passport and to some other person.
2) Once stolen passport is reported, all Airline staff and all Embassy staff database is updated and they deny boarding or visa or entry on that passport.
3) The people who assumed the identity of these people whose passport was stolen-did they look same or photos were changed in stolen passport? How about CCTV coverage of Kuala Lumpur airport when they were boarding the plane?
4) Passport and visa is checked before giving boarding pass for international flights. How did they clear this obstacle?
5) Passport number, Photo same as stolen passport or different? Did they temper with any other details?
6) Those nationals Italian and Austrian has a current passport now. Right? When they get a new one, previous one (stolen one) gets cancelled.
7) These imposters bought the tickets from a Chinese Airline website. How about tracking down credit card details??? It will lead us somewhere.
Last edited by munna21977; 03-08-2014 at 08:29 PM..
There are many unanswered questions because of stolen passports and identity of two passengers. There are some points to be noted:-
1) China is not a visa free country for an Austrian National and Italian National. As Passports were stolen 1 year and 2 years back, one cannot board a flight only with stolen passport. Visa is required. Chinese Embassy will require photograph of applicant and original passport for visa. Hard to believe that Chinese Embassy gave visa on stolen passport and to some other person.
2) Once stolen passport is reported, all Airline staff and all Embassy staff database is updated and they deny boarding or visa or entry on that passport.
3) The people who assumed the identity of these people whose passport was stolen-did they look same or photos were changed in stolen passport? How about CCTV coverage of Kuala Lumpur airport when they were boarding the plane?
4) Passport and visa is checked before giving boarding pass for international flights. How did they clear this obstacle?
5) Passport number, Photo same as stolen passport or different? Did they temper with any other details?
6) Those nationals Italian and Austrian has a current passport now. Right? When they get a new one, previous one (stolen one) gets cancelled.
7) These imposters bought the tickets from a Chinese Airline website. How about tracking down card details??? It will lead us somewhere.
Interesting points. Malaysia Security is supposed to be pretty good, too. Rhetorically speaking, how did the two passengers with stolen passports and visas get let through? Surely airliners "track" the employee(s) who log and scan passports and visas?
Here is another crazy thought. Could the plane have been diverted elsewhere without our knowledge (and that the oil slicks are unrelated)?
Debris will float up as it is a shallow part of the sea. It may take upto 3 days in worst case scenario. If there was some sort of engine failure, pilots would have got time to send May Day signal. If there was an explosion, then there is no time. Was the airplane on its correct path or it showed some deviation in location, altitude when last contact was made???
Interesting points. Malaysia Security is supposed to be pretty good, too. Rhetorically speaking, how did the two passengers with stolen passports and visas get let through? Surely airliners "track" the employee(s) who log and scan passports and visas?
Here is another crazy thought. Could the plane have been diverted elsewhere without our knowledge (and that the oil slicks are unrelated)?
This is something I don't understand either. I would think it would be damn near impossible for them to have pulled this off. I just don't see how they managed to get visas into China, get past all the airport security, etc.
The only way I can see is if they had someone on the inside ... or forced someone on the inside to help them circumvent the security controls.
Not sure which is more insane that there were at least two persons on the flight with reported lost/stolen passports or that the plane is still "missing".
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Malaysian plane disappearance
