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Anyone know why the guy with the clipboard from the ambulance company in Georgia wasn't wearing any protective gear while everyone around him was? He flew in the plane with Vinson but did not go into the ambulance.
I saw those pictures and that guy got really close to the men in the hazmat suits, and the patient. Did you see him hand over the red bio hazard bag?
I wonder if he's an ebola survivor? Either that or he's just dumb.
I saw those pictures and that guy got really close to the men in the hazmat suits, and the patient. Did you see him hand over the red bio hazard bag?
I wonder if he's an ebola survivor? Either that or he's just dumb.
I just read Phoenix Air requires as part of their "protocol" one person to be in street clothes so that they have full vision and mobility to make sure no close contact protocols are violated.
He did touch several things given to him with his bare hands
No panic necessary. I think we can shut down Ebola travel calmly, peacefully, and rationally. Even inexpensively.
I can't imagine that a travel ban from Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea would have major economic consequences for the US. It would be hard to track and enforce. Its a cost/benefit question. It would be a different calculus if there were a major dangerous infectious disease outbreak in, say, France or Japan.
Travel bans applied only to affected African nations are useless if other countries don't follow suit.
Travel to and from West Africa is far greater in Europe. Just this fact alone increases the probability that non-Americans are subject to more potential disease exposure. Yet EU airports have only just begun screening passengers and their health agencies have largely relied on self-monitoring and self-reporting. Secondary or tertiary transmission renders tracing the disease through, say, Liberian passport stamps entirely moot. If travel bans are the answer, we've got to go all in.
IMO, travel bans don't seem especially proactive. If anything it's a passive, short-term response, leaving the work of actually fighting the disease in Africa to other nations and agencies (WHO; MSF).
Alternatively, instead of stewing in our juices about who is going to infect us, we as a nation might try to step support for restoring the West African health infrastructure--to containing the epidemic before it reaches pandemic levels---like we should've done months ago.
Dr. Frieden of the CDC gave a statement today indicating that our first priority needs to be finding a vaccine to prevent Ebola and stopping it in Africa. He said that travel bans were unlikely to work.
You understand it. I understand it. Too many posting here really don't get it. Unless we ban all travel into this country from all nations, what we are doing ultimately won't work. There are all sorts of ways infected people can get into this country. Africans traveling to Europe can infect anyone in Europe traveling to America. Africans traveling to China can infect Chinese or American tourists traveling to the USA. A travel ban is likely trying to stick your finger in a leaky ****.
Top priority needs to be developing a vaccine for widespread use in Africa.
I'll remind many of our posters here that it wasn't President Obama who cut funding for the CDC and vaccine research. Tea party types can either look in a mirror or at some of the crackpots they helped elect to Congress back in 2010.
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Well, I admit that I'm a bit nervous but only because I'm a nurse that works in an ICU and I don't really want to take care of an ebola patient.... it's not even only taking care of the patient but all the crap that comes along with it afterwards (monitoring my temp, possibly being quarantined, giving it to my pets)... it's just too much for me right now. If I wasn't in healthcare, I would go about my business without any worry.
Yeah, it's a bit easier for those who don't work in healthcare or the airport, police, paramedics, ambulance, etc. Other people can just take that brave, nothing bothers me attitude.
Mmm yes, blame ebola on the president. How brilliant of you.
The president has not done a single thing to try and prevent Ebola coming into this country. He acted like it was inevitable, when in fact a simple visa suspension would have prevented Duncan from coming here and the two nurses from getting sick. And I'm not an Obama basher - I actually didn't mind him for a while. But they way they are all sitting there twiddling their thumbs and not taking a single step or action to prevent it here in America is simply deplorable and inexplicable to me and many others.
It would be o e thing if they tried - say banned travellers from affected nations but someone still slipped in from a different country - okay, we couldve said that happeena and nothing anyone could do. But they didn't even try. They did not take a.single. step to prevent entrance or spread in america. Plenty of help to Africa - but big fat ZILCH right here in their own country. Fail.
The Dr. Frieden of the CDC gave a statement today indicating that our first priority needs to be finding a vaccine to prevent Ebola and stopping it in Africa. He said that travel bans were unlikely to work.
You understand it. I understand it. Too many posting here really don't get it. Unless we ban all travel into this country from all nations, what we are doing ultimately won't work. There are all sorts of ways infected people can get into this country. Africans traveling to Europe can infect anyone in Europe traveling to America. Africans traveling to China can infect Chinese or American tourists traveling to the USA. A travel ban is likely trying to stick your finger in a leaky ****.
Top priority needs to be developing a vaccine for widespread use in Africa.
I'll remind many of our posters here that it wasn't President Obama who cut funding for the CDC and vaccine research. Tea party types can either look in a mirror or at some of the crackpots they helped elect to Congress back in 2010.
Worked for Nigeria and Senegal, and Kenya and whoever else banned travel. Haven't heard of a Duncan coming in into one of these countries, have we?
Yes people can infect others in other countries blah blah. But run the stats. The chances of that happening are miniscule compared to one of the people coming here from Liberia or sierra Leone being infected. One person infecting someone else in another country with no cases, and them coming to US at the same time - vs. 150 people a day from a country with 1000 new cases a week and dead bodies on the streets. Come on people, this is common sense a five year old could get!
I saw those pictures and that guy got really close to the men in the hazmat suits, and the patient. Did you see him hand over the red bio hazard bag?
I wonder if he's an ebola survivor? Either that or he's just dumb.
Supervisor of safety protocols. Wears no garments or protection as he is the monitor of the other HCWs and enforces protocol and safety. Others are restricted in vision and movement by their protection..
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