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View Poll Results: If there was an Ebola vaccine, would you take it?
Yes, I'd be one of the first to get a vaccine. Better safe than sorry. 41 11.20%
If it came to my region, then yes, I'd get vaccinated. 67 18.31%
Too soon, but I wouldn't rule it out in the future. 192 52.46%
Rush-to-market vaccines are dangerous. No way would I get a vaccine. 77 21.04%
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Old 10-12-2014, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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How terrifying for this healthcare worker and their loved ones. These healthcare workers haven't been trained properly to deal with this type of biohazard. I hope that they can figure out where the breach in security measures took place so that they can prevent future mistakes.
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Old 10-12-2014, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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My thoughts exactly. Almost as if it is a 'weaponized' version that inadvertently got loose.

Uh, it would have been "inadvertent"...wouldn't it???
This outbreak has been traced to virus from a fruit bat. They can do that by studying minor differences in the RNA of the virus. The first case was a two year old child. He may have eaten fruit contaminated by a bat.

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Appearances are one thing but lab tests have shown early stages at at death have the two highest titers.
I would like to read your source. Blood titers do not reflect titers in other organs. Early blood titers may be high but the amount of virus in other tissues may be lower. Later there is virus everywhere, which is the reason the body is highly contagious after death.
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Old 10-12-2014, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Somehow, I think that if this happened at a charity hospital like Parkland, the situation would have been handled differently. Presbyterian (Texas Health) is good, but I don't feel like they were as prepared as Parkland would be. For all it's faults, Parkland is a Level 1 trauma center that seems better able to handle big-time crises.
All US hospitals can say they are prepared but only a few have ever dealt with this.

Saying you are prepared means you have followed the guidelines, nothing more.

Are they as prepared as Emory ? Do they have any experience dealing with this as Emory has ?
Are workers as prepared as CDC Researchers that have handled this virus ?

No, we're as best prepared as we think we need to be.
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Old 10-12-2014, 09:59 AM
 
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Ok so lets get practical here...With all the precautions that health care workers have at their disposal and the fact that some still get Ebolaized,,,what chance do I as an ordinary traveler,a civilian have if someone that's infected brushes on by me.......I think I'm screwed...It seems that everyone thinks it someone else who falls of the ladder until they find out that they are the someone else.
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Old 10-12-2014, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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OK so get this - the new patient's vehicle has been impounded and decontaminated, as has the car park area surrounding it. A pet has been removed from the apartment. The apartment has already been decontaminated as well, according to officials. And the healthcare worker came down with symptoms Friday and was isolated and tested - all before the public knew anything about it. Apparently a circle of his/her friends and contacts has also already been contacted.

I have mixed feelings about all this.

On one hand, I'm not sure we need to know about every single person who is tested since the vast majority of people will obviously test negative for Ebola. But on the other hand, that was quite a feat getting all that done without any public knowledge whatsoever.

Interesting.
All done in the hush of the night. No one need to know or be concerned.
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Old 10-12-2014, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Ok so lets get practical here...With all the precautions that health care workers have at their disposal and the fact that some still get Ebolaized,,,what chance do I as an ordinary traveler,a civilian have if someone that's infected brushes on by me.......I think I'm screwed...It seems that everyone thinks it someone else who falls of the ladder until they find out that they are the someone else.
Just say to yourself.."You can't get Ebola sitting on a bus"
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Old 10-12-2014, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Where the heart is...
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This has been covered before. Yes, Ebola can be spread by large droplets (aerosols). That means if a victim coughs directly on you, you can get it.

No, it is not airborne. You cannot get it by just breathing the same air as a victim.

The people who did the pig study also did a followup study with monkeys in which an infected group of monkeys did not spread Ebola to uninfected monkeys only 30 cm away.

There has been no effort to withhold information. There is only the assumption that if healthcare workers are getting infected despite protective gear the virus must be airborne. That is not true. It is very easy to get the virus through breaks in technique when removing protective gear. There is nothing mysterious about it.
Thanks suzy!
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Old 10-12-2014, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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All done in the hush of the night. No one need to know or be concerned.

Good thing the Cowboys game is not a home game this week. If it had been, we'd probably not be hearing about this second case till tomorrow. PR and all that, dontchaknow.
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Old 10-12-2014, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Good thing the Cowboys game is not a home game this week. If it had been, we'd probably not be hearing about this second case till tomorrow. PR and all that, dontchaknow.
I hear that this is not keeping the crowds away from the State Fair.
I stopped going myself cause it just got too crowded to enjoy.
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Old 10-12-2014, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Health workers get infected when they remove contaminated gear. It is so easy for that to happen that Doctors Without Borders recommends having someone observe removal of protective gear to prevent that from happening.

There is no evidence the current strain is more contagious. It just got into a highly populated geographical area with more potential victims.

No one is denying Ebola is contagious. No one is "oblivious or unwilling to admit" anything. All they are saying is that if you do not get close to someone with it you are not at risk. If that were not true, the situation in West Africa would be even worse than it is.



Do you perhaps have a link to what he actually said?
Read the Hot Zone and you'll see that is what the researchers at the CDC do.
They have multiple layers of protective clothing, multiple rooms, and a buddy system.

I don't think US hospitals are doing that.
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