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I attended a Catholic wedding (in Mexico) just this weekend. I couldn't help but think about this very thing when I saw the priest and all the young boys in robes at the altar during the wedding mass. The Catholic church's time is up, in my opinion. In fact, just sitting in that church thinking of how many thousands of young boys have been violated by their church leaders across the world turned my stomach. I wanted to walk out soon after getting there, but didn't want to offend my friends who were getting married. (I didn't stand when the priest asked people to stand and I most definitely didn't put any money in the offering plate.) After hearing this story today about all the kiddie porn, I have come to a decision---never again will I attend a Catholic event. I will tell whomever invited me that I cannot attend until the Catholic followers stand up to the Vatican and call for the heads of every known sex offender in their organization. I would love to see this church literally crumble--never to be resurrected ever again. It's the wealthiest religious organization on the planet and they have wreaked havoc across the planet for centuries--it is a vile and evil group. And, they are tax exempt--so you could say that most governments support their activities. Essentially, they get rewarded to *** kids. Why the hell anyone would follow this sick organization is beyond me.
Hey, has anyone seen Louis CK's bit about Catholic priests and the real purpose of the Catholic church? It's highly shocking---t's meant to be, and almost difficult to watch the ugly truth, but it really hits home about this topic. I am so glad someone has finally done something like this to wake more people up!
I suppose you think this problem is limited to the Catholic Church?
Pedophilia is a psychological condition where the person is sexually and romantically attracted to young children. A pedophile is not a child molester unless he acts on those urges and molests a child.
In other words, pedophilia is the inward condition. Child molestation is the outward action.
The priest in the story has thousands of images on his computer. Unless he has actually physically touched a child, he is not a child molester, but he is a pedophile (providing he is actually guilty—most clergy I've met are not the most computer savvy people).
Well, doesn't that also change the availability and opportunity for these acts? I'm not very well versed in Catholicism, but all the kids who help out carrying stuff, standing besides the priests, other duties, aren't they only boys and not girls?
Is it fair to lump all of them into the same camp? I don't have any figures on me, but are the majority of them really this bad, or is it a few bad apples amongst an organization that's (mostly) doing good, or at the very least, nothing too shady.
NO, lots of girls now help out with the mass. My grand-niece is one.
Which is weird since her parents never went to church before. This is the crazy part. If you are going to be religious, shouldn't it be part of your life, not just when you pop out a kid. Why expose them to that stuff? Like someone else said - Brainwashed.
I grew up Catholic, but gave that up. I tried, but everywhere there were "creepy" people.
People just love this new pope. I think he is just part of their PR campaign. That other pope just wasn't working out - scary looking guy.
Pedophilia is a psychological condition where the person is sexually and romantically attracted to young children. A pedophile is not a child molester unless he acts on those urges and molests a child.
In other words, pedophilia is the inward condition. Child molestation is the outward action.
The priest in the story has thousands of images on his computer. Unless he has actually physically touched a child, he is not a child molester, but he is a pedophile (providing he is actually guilty—most clergy I've met are not the most computer savvy people).
I get the feeling and I hope I'm wrong, but are you defending his actions?
According to the news reports I've read this priest has physically touched young boys. He's been seeking out young boys for his own sexual pleasure. That's the definition of a pedophile and a child molester.
I hope you're not minimizing the fact that he's got thousands of images of young children in various sexual positions on his computer. Pedophile, child molester, semantics. That alone makes him a sick bastard in my eyes.
Child porn is not a victimless crime. It exploits children. The very same children we, as adults should be protecting.
This is just disgusting. I am neither a Roman Catholic nor a psychologist/psychiatrist, but I think requiring priestly celibacy limits the number of men that are sexually "normal" that would be interested in joining the priesthood and therefore there is a higher percentage of pedophiles. I think in past decades (or even centuries), when there was much stronger societal pressure for all men to get married, the priesthood was an escape route for men that had no interest in marriage or heterosexual relations.
As terrible as this and the other incidents of clerical sexual abuse are, the fact is the vast majority of priests are NOT child molesters, and that the percentage of priests that are pedophiles is no different from the general population, i.e, around 1-2%. Having said that, the Roman Catholic Church is guilty of a massive cover up of this problem, and the pope really needs to dismiss every single bishop and archbishop that ignored this problem and moved abusive priests around from parish to parish. Then the church should open up the priesthood to married men and make celibacy optional.
How do you KNOW, that the vast majority of priest are not pedophiles? The catholic church knew about all these cases, and God only knows how many more, and covered up the crimes! Every last one of them who knew about it and did nothing should have ALL been thrown in prison! They basically made a safe haven for pedophiles.
They left the priest there to continue preying on innocent children. All of these children are going to have severe emotional scars from this. It was basically a nod and a wink to all pedophiles that they can do what they want to innocent children, and they will cover it up for them. That would be an open invitation for all pedophiles. I'm not buying the 2% of pedophiles for the catholic church.
You don't cover up something so vile, and leave priest in positions to continue abusing children. That is as vile as the act itself. The ones who knew are just as guilty. Pedophiles will always look for some way to get near children, and we hear in the news from time to time where one has been arrested. What makes this different for catholic priests is that they have been caught many times doing this, and the vatican covered it up, and left most priests to continue their preying on children.
I don't know for sure if they themselves are pedophiles but human nature should have driven them to protect children at all costs. They sided with the monsters and allowed them to continue. That is what I call a pedophile ring. A place where pedophiles are welcome and protected while they feed on children. Under these circumstances and lack of empathy for the children who had already been molested, and would be molested by these priests, I think their actions put them all in a bad light when it comes to children.
How anyone could allow their children around these people is beyond me.
I suppose you think this problem is limited to the Catholic Church?
I suspect it is not limited to just Catholic priests, but it is certainly the one religious organization that you hear about the most for child molestation cases. And, if you take this grave issue and look at the bigger picture of violence and other evil acts they have perpetrated across the globe for centuries, what emerges is a monster of epic proportions. The Roman Catholic church is evil. Just read about the history of the various popes and their evil acts through the ages to get a better idea of what we are dealing with here. Seriously, are their followers THAT brainwashed that they cannot see the beast before them.
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I suspect it is not limited to just Catholic priests, but it is certainly the one religious organization that you hear about the most for child molestation cases. And, if you take this grave issue and look at the bigger picture of violence and other evil acts they have perpetrated across the globe for centuries, what emerges is a monster of epic proportions. The Roman Catholic church is evil. Just read about the history of the various popes and their evil acts through the ages to get a better idea of what we are dealing with here. Seriously, are their followers THAT brainwashed that they cannot see the beast before them.
Yes, there has been some evil, but has there been no good done by the Catholic Church? Name one organization that has not had an evil member/leader at one time or another, not to mention one that has existed for 2000 years. There are child molesting ministers in other religions as well, but since those religions don't have a hierarchy, they are dismissed quietly at the local level. In this case, it appears the hierarchy were the ones who discovered the crime and took action, which shows the system can be made to work to root out the bad apples.
As for being brainwashed, how do you know that you have not been brainwashed by Atheists? And are there no atheistic child molesters?
Yes, there has been some evil, but has there been no good done by the Catholic Church? Name one organization that has not had an evil member/leader at one time or another, not to mention one that has existed for 2000 years. There are child molesting ministers in other religions as well, but since those religions don't have a hierarchy, they are dismissed quietly at the local level. In this case, it appears the hierarchy were the ones who discovered the crime and took action, which shows the system can be made to work to root out the bad apples.
As for being brainwashed, how do you know that you have not been brainwashed by Atheists? And are there no atheistic child molesters?
That is just classic how you say...there has been some evil. That is an understatement of all understatements! Evil and heinous acts carried out around the globe by the Roman Catholic church has been present since at least 700. That is over 1300 years of murder, torture, satanic ceremonies, and kidnapping and diddling children! This organization has had so many phases including that of a Roman cult that practiced satanism replete with child sacrifices, burning people alive, cannibalism, demonic worship, etc...the list goes on and on. That is a historical fact, my friend. It is a pity that religious followers know squat about a group to which they belong.
Of course the hierarchy gets involved now. They are the laughing stock of all that is good and decent in this world. They have a horribly gruesome and truly evil history, and now dwindling numbers of followers. They are scared of losing their power, wealth and influence, so they are forced to get involved and put on a good show. How you cannot see this is truly astonishing. I would bet my paycheck that this is the sole reason Pope Francis is the new pope. He is the new savior of the hierarchy.
Nice try with your counter on brainwashing. Your last statement is as empty as your willingness to learn about the group you are supporting.
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