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Here's an article about the vilification of the pit bull.
Some pit bulls look friendly to me:
And some I find terrifying:
What's the difference (other than the cropped ears)? How can I be sure from puppyhood that I'm getting a pit bull like the first three, and not one like the fourth pic?
Ask to see the parents.
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Originally Posted by NLVgal
Why are people drawn to this breed right now when backyard breeding has reduced the quality of the breed so much ?
My first pit was a rescue from two idiots. Our dog had passed away so we were open to getting another dog. My second, actually a Staffordshire, was left by his owner, intact, nearly emaciated, covered with mange and had a cherry eye, at the property I purchased. I'm usually all about rescue. I cant speak for others.
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Originally Posted by mikelizard860
Why do you need thispresa canario)
When you could have this
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Originally Posted by mikelizard860
Plenty of other dogs to choose from that don't have man killing power like rotties, presa's, mastiffs, american bulldogs, pitbulls.
Because I do not spend my time obsessed and worrying about myself or others being attacked by a dog, or my horses, or pigs or snake bites or zombies. I do occasionally think about being injured in an auto accident, especially when the roads are bad.
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That was not a cocker spaniel in the picture!
Yep. That's how I feel when the media and public mistake other breeds for Pit Bulls.
Plenty of other dogs to choose from that don't have man killing power like rotties, presa's, mastiffs, american bulldogs, pitbulls.
why would I want a breed whose face and head have been so profoundly distorted by human interference that it can't breathe properly, overheats VERY easily and is prone to eyeballs popping from its sockets??
you see, I ACTUALLY know dogs and breed characteristics.... and because I am personally knowledgeable, I am able to form an intelligent opinion on the various breeds and their characteristics..... I have no need at all to rely on sensationalistic and overblown media accounts and you tube videos for MY information and opinions....
btw... you have NEVER answered either of the questions posed to you about where you would draw the line for what is an acceptable size or weight dog for OTHER people to have for companions .....
or what would be an acceptable limit on bite force for OTHER people to have for companions.....
why would I want a breed whose face and head have been so profoundly distorted by human interference that it can't breathe properly, overheats VERY easily and is prone to eyeballs popping from its sockets??
you see, I ACTUALLY know dogs and breed characteristics.... and because I am personally knowledgeable, I am able to form an intelligent opinion on the various breeds and their characteristics..... I have no need at all to rely on sensationalistic and overblown media accounts and you tube videos for MY information and opinions....
btw... you have NEVER answered either of the questions posed to you about where you would draw the line for what is an acceptable size or weight dog for OTHER people to have for companions .....
or what would be an acceptable limit on bite force for OTHER people to have for companions.....
So every dog that is not the breeds I listed can't breathe properly? LOL A quick google AKC search can tell you about a pug's breathing problems. It's COMMON knowledge. It's not specialized knowledge you have.
It's not sensationalist the amount of ER visits for dog bites and the amount of deaths caused by a few breeds. These are facts. Facts don't lie
I would say about 70 pound limit. (yes I know labs can be a bit bigger, time to start breeding them smaller)
Certains breeds, while less than size ARE more aggressive. Like pitbulls.
American bulldog can be up to 120 pounds. Rottie can be up to 130. Same with mastiffs. The are huge dangerous animals that can and DO inflict horrific damage on people.
Another fatality. Again. Presa's and pitties. I could find a ton of of these attacks. This is not made up stuff. It's FACTS. It's people that had died, nevermind the thousands maimed.
"Neighbor Monica Cofer said the dogs had never shows any signs of aggression in the past.
“They never showed any type of aggression,” she told the website. “Even if one got loose, you could tell them to go back to their yard and they’d go back.”
This is SOOO classic. Why are they "getting loose" to begin with. Typical.
So every dog that is not the breeds I listed can't breathe properly? LOL A quick google AKC search can tell you about a pug's breathing problems. It's
COMMON knowledge. It's not specialized knowledge you have.
You posted a picture of a pug. One does not have to google if they are already personally familiar with certain breeds.
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It's not sensationalist the amount of ER visits for dog bites and the amount of
deaths caused by a few breeds. These are facts. Facts don't lie
What number qualifies for sensationalism? 32? Fact: In 2011 (most current stats from the CDC) there were 32 dog attack fatalities, 1,545 fatalities from child neglect and abuse (for perspective).
Dog bites 4.5 million, 855,000 requiring medical attention. There are ~300 million people in the US, .002% of the population sustained a dog bite requiring medical attention. .0000001% fatalities.
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I would say about 70 pound limit. (yes I know labs can be a bit bigger, time
to start breeding them smaller)
Certains breeds, while less than size ARE more aggressive. Like pitbulls.
American bulldog can be up to 120 pounds. Rottie can be up to 130. Same with
mastiffs. The are huge dangerous animals that can and DO inflict horrific damage
on people.
So no dogs in excess of 70lbs and we can all rest easy that we wont potentially be one of the 0.0000001% killed by a potentially dangerous dog. Ok then.
I would say about 70 pound limit. (yes I know labs can be a bit bigger, time to start breeding them smaller)
Certains breeds, while less than size ARE more aggressive. Like pitbulls.
American bulldog can be up to 120 pounds. Rottie can be up to 130. Same with mastiffs. The are huge dangerous animals that can and DO inflict horrific damage on people.
Well at least the pitbulls will be safe from your size limitation. Most of them are only 50-60 pounds.
So every dog that is not the breeds I listed can't breathe properly? LOL A quick google AKC search can tell you about a pug's breathing problems. It's COMMON knowledge. It's not specialized knowledge you have.
It's not sensationalist the amount of ER visits for dog bites and the amount of deaths caused by a few breeds. These are facts. Facts don't lie
I would say about 70 pound limit. (yes I know labs can be a bit bigger, time to start breeding them smaller)
Certains breeds, while less than size ARE more aggressive. Like pitbulls.
American bulldog can be up to 120 pounds. Rottie can be up to 130. Same with mastiffs. The are huge dangerous animals that can and DO inflict horrific damage on people.
I never claimed to have specialized knowledge about pugs.... but then again, I don't have to search around the 'net on google to research their breathing problems..... because I already know about them through my experience with the breed....
hhhmmmm..... 70 lbs?? .... you just eliminated my lab x boxer mix and chubby red heeler mix.... and you know those boxers.... perpetual 3 year olds in a dog suit.... or did you know that??
and what about those larger labs and goldens and shepherds that are trained service dogs?? a larger dog is quite often capable of helping disabled humans in ways a smaller dog can not.... but if our limit is 70 lbs.... oh, well, too bad, so sad quadriplegic vet and paraplegic car accident survivor....
that suggestion is ridiculous it will never happen.... if you want to limit my dogs to 70 lbs apiece, then I reserve the right to limit your gun clips to four rounds apiece.... After all, your gone can maim and kill me from a block away....
You posted a picture of a pug. One does not have to google if they are already personally familiar with certain breeds.
What number qualifies for sensationalism? 32? Fact: In 2011 (most current stats from the CDC) there were 32 dog attack fatalities, 1,545 fatalities from child neglect and abuse (for perspective).
Dog bites 4.5 million, 855,000 requiring medical attention. There are ~300 million people in the US, .002% of the population sustained a dog bite requiring medical attention. .0000001% fatalities.
So no dogs in excess of 70lbs and we can all rest easy that we wont potentially be one of the 0.0000001% killed by a potentially dangerous dog. Ok then.
Wait, what about the fatties ? Over 70lbs.
that poor little doxie was put on a diet a year or more ago and has lost a TREMENDOUS amount of weight....
that poor little doxie was put on a diet a year or more ago and has lost a TREMENDOUS amount of weight....
PHEW, then he is no longer a 70lb vicious threat to society at large!
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