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There is no anti-gun control spin here. This is just another gun FAIL.
With several customers in the store who could have been hit by stray bullets, she fired multiple shots at him. There is no evidence that any of the shots actually hit the bad guy. Ultimately she physically overpowered him to stop the robbery. Her getting hold of the gun was of no use in stopping the robbery. Though its lucky that she was able to disarm him.
If gun control had been in effect, the robber would not have had a gun, and she would have still been able to stop the robbery the same way she did. But without shooting-up the store, and putting the lives of innocent customers and bystanders in jeopardy.
And don't give me the BS that the bad guys would still have guns. Some weapons are controlled in this country, and the bad guys don't have those. And in other countries where handguns are controlled, the bad guys don't have them there, except maybe in border areas where the guns are smuggled in from the US.
To make it even worse, the robber in the video was known to the clerk, so he wasn't going to get away with it anyway.
Its makes them very expensive. If a guy like this, had thousands of dollars to spend for a gun on the black market, then he probably wouldn't use it to knock over a connivence store for $80.
Also most criminal get their guns by stealing them from legal gun owners. If legal gun owners don't have the guns, or at least have them secured, then there is no guns for them to steal.
Gun control works very well in a lot of counties. There is no movement to get rid of gun control in those counties because it's not working.
Show me a country where "bad guys don't have guns" and I will prove you wrong.
Here you go.
"But what about the country at the other end of the spectrum? What is the role of guns in Japan, the developed world's least firearm-filled nation and perhaps its strictest controller? In 2008, the U.S. had over 12 thousand firearm-related homicides. All of Japan experienced only 11, fewer than were killed at the Aurora shooting alone. And that was a big year: 2006 saw an astounding two, and when that number jumped to 22 in 2007, it became a national scandal. By comparison, also in 2008, 587 Americans were killed just by guns that had discharged accidentally.
Almost no one in Japan owns a gun. Most kinds are illegal, with onerous restrictions on buying and maintaining the few that are allowed. Even the country's infamous, mafia-like Yakuza tend to forgo guns; the few exceptions tend to become big national news stories."
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Its makes them very expensive. If a guy like this, had thousands of dollars to spend for a gun on the black market, then he probably wouldn't use it to knock over a connivence store for $80.
Also most criminal get their guns by stealing them from legal gun owners. If legal gun owners don't have the guns, or at least have them secured, then there is no guns for them to steal.
Gun control works very well in a lot of counties. There is no movement to get rid of gun control in those counties because it's not working.
Criminals have access to firearms a legal owner cannot get. Some even have grenades. *wonders how that happens since they only get them from robbing law abiding citizens...lol. *
Countries. Europe was never free. Its citizens were never allowed to be armed, except as soldiers. Those people do not miss rights and self-protections they never had. They have always been subjects. America was founded by those who no longer wished to be subjects.
Why should Americans regress back to what they have fought so hard to break free from? There is a lot of truth to the fact that when Americans can no longer own guns, only criminals will have them.
Criminals have access to firearms a legal owner cannot get. Some even have grenades. *wonders how that happens since they only get them from robbing law abiding citizens...lol. *
Link for the grenade story please.
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Countries. Europe was never free. Its citizens were never allowed to be armed, except as soldiers. Those people do not miss rights and self-protections they never had. They have always been subjects. America was founded by those who no longer wished to be subjects.
Why should Americans regress back to what they have fought so hard to break free from? There is a lot of truth to the fact that when Americans can no longer own guns, only criminals will have them.
To save about 13,000 innocent American lives a year. Again gun control works very well.
Criminals have access to firearms a legal owner cannot get. Some even have grenades. *wonders how that happens since they only get them from robbing law abiding citizens...lol. *
Countries. Europe was never free. Its citizens were never allowed to be armed, except as soldiers. Those people do not miss rights and self-protections they never had. They have always been subjects. America was founded by those who no longer wished to be subjects.
Why should Americans regress back to what they have fought so hard to break free from? There is a lot of truth to the fact that when Americans can no longer own guns, only criminals will have them.
Exactly. Trying to compare Europe to America is absurd. There are FAR to many guns in America to make a difference. From its very inception Americans have always used (and in the early days needed) guns for protection, for hunting to feed the family etc.
ow many guns are there in the United States? While no one knows exactly, our most reliable estimates have put the numbers of firearms in the hands of United States civilians at 300 – 310 million, but I am convinced that number is no longer anywhere close to accurate. I suspect the true numbers are a lot higher. In 2007, the Geneva based Small Arms Survey estimated that there were over 270 million privately owned firearms in the United States. This estimate is a very rough educated guess at best, but is often used as a starting point for discussion.
If gun control had been in effect, the robber would not have had a gun, and she would have still been able to stop the robbery the same way she did. But without shooting-up the store, and putting the lives of innocent customers and bystanders in jeopardy.
Gun control WAS in effect. You think it was legal for him to own and carry guns? How did he come in possession of it? What do Kentucky laws say about gun transfers? Did he go through NICS? You don’t know any of that but jump to the conclusion that if guns were outlawed he would not have a gun. We will find out that guns WERE outlawed for him.
If legal gun owners don't have the guns, or at least have them secured, then there is no guns for them to steal.
If there was no fat in the world, there wouldn’t be fat people. Get out of your fantasy land and accept the world as is. In the 500 years history of firearms, you think you are the first one who tried to eliminate them from the face of the earth. Believe it or not others thought about it too.
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Link for the grenade story please.
To save about 13,000 innocent American lives a year. Again gun control works very well.
Tell it to NYC. They have more guns on the streets, and more gun crimes than I would think anywhere, yet most citizens dont own guns.
Reality is making anything illegal makes it very attractive for people to have, and NYC is glaring example of how gun control epicly fails here.
13K innocent lives, eh? Aside from questioning the vaildity of that number and description - The population of NYC is around 8.41 million, so even if all those innocent lives were taken in NYC, its still a very small percentage of America's population.
Maybe we need car control instead. Seems to me cars kill a lot more people than guns do.
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