Fisher is convinced vaccines caused her child to be autistic. She has made a career out of insisting vaccines cause autism. They do not, but if she admits that, she's out of a job.
We already know that people who do not vaccinate feel no ethical obligation to reduce the risk of harm to others, so such behavior would not be surprising, would it?
The idea is to prevent epidemics, not wait until they happen, and the increasing number of outbreaks due to declining vaccination rates justifies mandates to get the rates back up again.
Fear is the only thing anti-vaccinationists have. They do not have any facts to support not vaccinating. None.
Arizona:
Hundreds of Arizona schools skirting vaccination rule
Don't be too eager to move.
The original article had multiple authors; ten of them withdrew their support of the paper years before it was withdrawn by the
Lancet. As you have been told, the colleague who was "exonerated" was able to show he was misled by Wakefield.
Choose to not vaccinate. That choice is preserved. You cannot send your child to public school in California if you do not. Cheer up, though. In Australia not vaccinating will cost you cold, hard cash.
Please show us how any treatment can make a case of measles look insignificant. We can help relieve symptoms. With intensive care we can save some lives. But viral diseases cannot be cured. They just have to run their courses, and some will cause complications and deaths.
You are more likely to get "brain inflammation" from the disease than from the vaccine: 2 in 1000 from the disease, at most 1 in a million from the vaccine.
MMR Decision Aid - Comparing the risks - Measles - NCIRS - National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance
I know others have challenged this, but to quote the late, great Lewis Grizzard, "D****, brother! I don't believe I'd a told that!"
It does not make you sound smart.
If exposed, most vaccinated people do not get the disease. If exposed, most unvaccinated people do.
The state wide vaccination rate is not the issue. The concern is that people who refuse to vaccinate like to live near others who refuse to vaccinate. That increases the risks of larger outbreaks.
If other issues need to be addressed, they need to be addressed. That is no reason to ignore the risks that clusters of unvaccinated people present.
Most of the decisions people make affect only themselves. Vaccination is not one of those, and mandates can help increase vaccination rates. Other problems are irrelevant to vaccines. We need to tackle those, too, but their existence does not have anything to do with vaccination.
The risk of a fatal reaction to a vaccine is so low it is virtually impossible to measure it. That is why saying "knowing someone is going to have a reaction that could be fatal" is a crock full of you know what. People definitely die from vaccine preventable diseases, though.
The probability of a child dying from a vaccine is tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny. You will find many parents of children who died from vaccine preventable diseases who will say they wish they had vaccinated, though.
We are on the verge of not having enough people vaccinated to prevent epidemics. That is the whole point of mandates: to stop the declining vaccination rates that will allow a resurgence of vaccine preventable diseases.
No one denies that vaccine injuries exist. They do, just not in the numbers you are trying to make us believe.
The compensation program does provide awards for true vaccine injuries. It even provides compensation to some people whose injuries may have been caused by something other than the vaccine, since a claimant does not have to prove the vaccine caused the injury, only that it
might have.
The number is small due to the fact that most people vaccinate. Stop vaccinating, and more people will die.
You have already been told that many side effects listed in package inserts are there whether the vaccine caused them or not. True, known adverse effects are listed and also discussed in the vaccine information statement given to anyone who takes a vaccine.
Te actual number of severe injuries truly caused by vaccines is so small it's hard to calculate.
The only vaccine injury that could cause sudden death is an allergic reaction. Most severe allergic reactions are successfully treated and are not fatal.
Your argument is so circuitous I get dizzy looking at it. Is it possible your child could have a severe reaction to a vaccine? Yes. Is it probable? No. It is very highly improbable, and much less probable than having a dangerous complication from a vaccine preventable disease.
We could prove that some of the injuries for which awards were made are not due to the vaccine, if we demanded proof from claimants? Is that what you want? For Guillain Barre syndrome, for example, the illness has only to fall within a certain time frame after the vaccination for an award to be made. In many people, the GBS very likely was related to an infection, not the vaccine. Do you want a claimant to have to prove he did not have GBS due to a Campylobacter infection?
Thanks for showing just how rare serious injuries due to vaccines are, especially when you realize some injuries were compensated that were not even due to the vaccine. The risk of a compensable injury - some of which resolved without any permanent harm - was one in a million doses.
No, that does not mean they cannot prove any of them. It means they did not have to.
The first rotavirus vaccine was pulled off the market because the association with intussusception was felt to be causal. Better vaccines were developed. Isn't that what you want: better vaccines? The problem is that in your view no vaccine will ever be good enough. Expecting a vaccine to be 100% safe is unrealistic. That's like insisting no automobiles should be produced until they are all 100% reliable and never break down.
The proven safety of vaccines is so great that we can ethically mandate vaccination.
In epidemiology,
eliminated and
eradicated are different concepts.
Eliminated means the disease no longer circulates in a location. In the US, that has been achieved. All measles cases happen because someone brings it in from another country.
Eradicated means it's gone worldwide. So far two viruses have been eradicated: smallpox and rinderpest (which affected ruminants, especially cattle). The eradication of polio is within reach.
Religious objections are in essence philosophical objections. None of the major religions in this country have strict prohibitions against vaccines. As your link shows, even the Catholic Church feels that the benefits of vaccines make it ethical to use them.
We have seen that people lie about religious exemptions, and those with religious objections do vaccinate when the disease gets up close and personal in their communities.
Sorry, but if the doctrine of the church you attend does not forbid vaccination, I do not believe you can claim to have a religious objection to it.
The amount of aluminum in vaccines is not toxic. You get more from food and water every day than from all the vaccines an individual will ever take. And no, getting it in a shot makes no difference. The same with all the other vaccine ingredients that ant-vaccinationists rail against, including formaldehyde.
"Natural" doctors get into trouble when they do things that hurt people. Do you really want them to be able to hurt people? as long as they do no harm, they are pretty well allowed to go their merry way. The fact that much of what they do is useless is just fine. As long as people want to pay for worthless "detoxification" they may do so.
Geier lost his license in multiple states, primarily because he was treating kids with autism with Lupron. He was doing harm.
Harpocrates Speaks: Mark Geier: Not a Leg to Stand On
"Dr. Geier, through his Institute of Chronic Illness and Genetic Centers of America, misdiagnosed autistic children with precocious puberty so he could claim that he was using Lupron on label, rather than for an unapproved, experimental indication (i.e., autism). This also allowed him to bill insurance companies for the lupron. His actions got him into hot water with various state medical boards, starting with his medical license in Maryland being suspended on April 27, 2011. Since then, one by one, 11 of his 12 medical licenses were suspended, an application for a thirteenth license in Ohio was denied, and some of those suspensions became complete revocations. The last actions I wrote about were the revocation of his license in Missouri and suspension of his Illinois license. At the time, the only state left in which Dr. Geier could practice was Hawaii.
As of April 11, 2013, that is no longer the case.
Although his license listing on the Hawaii state Professional and Vocational Licensing search has yet to be updated as of this writing, searching the state's RICO Complaint History database reveals that the board revoked his license last month. The case number is MED 2011-79-L (if the link to the PDF doesn't work, go to the OAH Decisions web site, click on OAH Final Orders and search for "Geier"). According to the Final Order, a petition for disciplinary action against Dr. Geier was filed on July 17, 2012, Geier was notified on November 19, and a hearing was held on February 5 of this year.
Dr. Geier failed to appear for the hearing and did not file for exceptions or extensions to delay the hearing."
Geier did get his day in court in Maryland:
http://www.casewatch.org/board/med/g...revocation.pdf
HIP
AA does not apply to schools. Other laws do.
Vaccines have small failure rates. They protect all but a few who get them. Ninety percent of those who are not vaccinated will get measles if exposed; only 5% of vaccinated people will. That means an unvaccinated child is more likely to catch measles and expose someone else, including the five percent of vaccinated people for whom the vaccine did not work, babies too young to be vaccinated, and people with compromised immune systems.
Wow! Great job of packing multiple vaccine myths into one paragraph! See #1, 5, and 12 here:
Myths That Keep People From Vaccinating Their Kids
Informed consent has nothing to do with mandates. It is part of the process for everyone who vaccinates. This has been explained for you before.
Another myth and a conspiracy theory to top it off!
See #46.
Myths That Keep People From Vaccinating Their Kids
There is no squalene in any vaccine sold in the US. It is used in a flu vaccine available in Europe, but there have been no injuries attributable to it.
Shattering the Myths About Squalene in Vaccines | WIRED
Don't lick your fingers, though. There is
natural squalene on them.
See #11 and 46:
Myths That Keep People From Vaccinating Their Kids
There is no fetal tissue in any vaccine.