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Yes, you are correct. My apologies, he hadn't actually given her the citation at that point.
I was under the same impression. Had to rewatch to confirm. My earlier post regarding to separate detainment is incorrect obviously. I do still believe the detainment and the order to exit the vehicle (and subsequent force) was legal.
I don't have to mind my own business. If you wanted no one but Kathryn to respond to your post or see your post, you should have sent her a direct message. But instead you decided to tell her that you "used to like her" and now think of her differently on the public forum. That would be your fault, not mine.
If I'm not mistaken (could be thinking of someone else), Kathryn has two biracial children so I doubt she's a racist. And saying what Kathryn said does not make someone a racist. Crying racism is the go to for people who don't like to hear certain opinions and/or facts.
Thanks - and actually I have four biracial children, all now adults (and none with a criminal record, just throwing that out there). If we apply that worn out "one drop rule" as so many people still insist on doing, they'd all be considered African American.
I also have a Korean brother and a Korean grandson and four grandkids who are not only AA/white but are also Panamanian and Puerto Rican.
Oh and I have a Korean daughter in law and a multiracial son in law. And one son in law who is probably part Jewish (last name and looks imply that though he doesn't know much about his family heritage).
And I love them all dearly. And one of the reasons I love every single one of them is because not a single one of them - blood relatives or in laws - has a victim mentality. If they get a speeding ticket, they don't assume it's because their skin is brown or they don't speak English well. If someone is rude to them, they don't assume it's because of their last name or their "natural hair." If someone pushes them in a line, they don't assume it's because they're being disrespected based on their ethnicity or accent.
In fact, there was nothing racial AT ALL in the entire traffic stop w/ Bland and the cop.
I wish people would stop trying to make things into a race issue when none exists.
And I wish people would stop making absolute pronouncements on the state of minds of people other than themselves. You cannot know what that officers motivations were regarding Bland. It is hard to imagine that Bland was the first person in his career to mouth off to him. It is more reasonable to assume a racial motivation for the rapid escalation of events with Bland than not.
I was under the same impression. Had to rewatch to confirm. My earlier post regarding to separate detainment is incorrect obviously. I do still believe the detainment and the order to exit the vehicle (and subsequent force) was legal.
I do beg your pardon, you'll see how the post above doesn't give the below impression.
I'm 53 years old. I've been driving for 37 years. So yeah - I've gotten probably a ticket every three or four years and warnings off and on throughout the years.
Just for the record, I've never been ticketed for going over 12 miles over the speed limit, and several times it's been under ten miles over the speed limit. Once I got a ticket for having an expired inspection sticker that had expired two days before!
And finally, surely you can see the difference between the occasional speeding ticket or warning, and DUIs, convictions for possession of drugs, theft, and over $7000 in unpaid fines.
^ Getting pulled over is a pretty common occurrence. Some people rarely are, some people often are, but it's safe to say most people are pulled over at least once in their lifetimes for doing something actually wrong on the roads. What really matters is your conduct after getting pulled over. Sometimes, if you're nice and respectful, a cop will let you go with just a warning. But if you're being rude and combative, you never know where that will take you. And that would be your own fault.
Right - and I did notice that when I was driving a red car, I got pulled over more often than when I was driving a blue SUV - LOL. Strange but true.
Hunh, how you got to where you are from what I posted, I have no idea. Keep on your delusion, though, don't let me stop you.
1. Woman gets pulled over for routine traffic stop.
2. Woman gets belligerent with officer.
3. Woman resists arrest and assaults officer.
4. Woman sits in jail for three days when friend refuses to bail her out.
5. Woman (who has a history of depression) hangs herself with a garbage bag.
Most of America: Sad story, but maybe if she kept her mouth shut, she would have just got a ticket.
You: Another case of police negligence and more evidence of a racial conspiracy in law enforcement.
I see. Smart enough to not be abusive, but not smart (nor responsible) enough to drive without repeatedly being pulled over.
If you're going to take the high ground about what Ms Bland should or should not have done, perhaps you would do well to curb your own habitual disregard for the law.
Being polite doesn't excuse you. If you really took responsibility, you'd stop doing it.
That's the point. Being rude is not a jailable offense. And Ms Bland should have been subject to the same treatment as Ms Aragon.
One's manners are not the point. Both broke laws and one is no better than the other.
I'm smart enough not to smart off to a cop - ever. That's my point and a point that Ms. Bland would have done well to apply in her own situation. You smart off at a cop, things are not as likely to end with a simple warning. I didn't even need anyone to ever tell me that to know it!
I'm smart enough not to smart off to a cop - ever. That's my point and a point that Ms. Bland would have done well to apply in her own situation. You smart off at a cop, things are not as likely to end with a simple warning. I didn't even need anyone to ever tell me that to know it!
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And saying what Kathryn said does not make someone a racist. Crying racism is the go to for people who don't like to hear certain opinions and/or facts.
