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Old 08-25-2015, 09:45 AM
 
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Part of the issue is the fact that it's even on the "suggested" reading list. Even it merely being "suggested" reading implies that there's a certain ideological perspective that's being pushed.

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There's a thread in the Education forum about this. The book is suggested summer reading and it sounds like only a few kids are making an issue about reading it. The kid quoted in the OP sounds like an attention seeker.
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:56 AM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fun_Home

Well you got my curiosity up and I went looking. Found out a long time ago you don't have to read everything to know what is in it. There is always another place that tells you what you NEED to know to help others find what they want. I won't further comment on this because I haven't read it and there is little likelihood that I will.

I also found out a long time ago I don't care to read most best sellers.

Yes, Shanksalot, I agree there is an agenda at work here but it is certainly not a religious agenda.

My son's best friend recently called God unreal, a fantasy, on his Facebook page. I wondered what happened to this sweet little boy my son had played with that went to church every Sunday with his parents. He went to a four year local Christian college by scholarship and went on to several other colleges to teach and get his doctorate. He has now been married twice and divorced twice. What happened to make him change so much? I think college ruined him. Parents better pay attention to what is being taught to their children is all I have to say. My son's best friend is the head of his department in the college where he teaches. I still love him as a son too but I am troubled by his attitude. My son tells me they have grown apart. I can certainly see why.

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Old 08-25-2015, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Right, those students never watched porn.

Mick
But they werent told they need to watch porn. Let alone at a public, academic level. What a goofy comparison, man.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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The author is Christian.
Yeah, "Christian". Im sure Jesus is so proud of the book.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Fine, let them fail.

Seriously, these kids are way to coddle and people looking to be coddled for four years shouldn't be in university.

I took a censorship class during undergrad and, on the first day, the teacher went over the books we would be reading and the reasons why these books were banned. Everyone signed the syllabus, proving that they had read and understood it. The first book on the list was Lady Chatterly's Lover. The next week some girl starts off the class complaining about the book, that it was too sexual and she was Christian and didn't believe in having sex before marriage or porn and, blah blah bah (she had other issues w/ it but couldn't remember all the complaints). She wanted the permission to read another book. The teacher pulled out a copy of the syllabus and asked her if she had read and signed it. She said yes. His response: "Well then, tough **** (or he might have said tough freaking ****), drop the class." She complained that she couldn't drop b/c all the other classes w/ this specific requirement were filled up. I think at this point our teacher just shrugged and went on teaching the class. By the next class, the girl was gone.

Moral of the story, or at least one of them: if you're religious and are looking for an institution of higher learning that will teach to the tenants of your religion, go to a religious institution that does so. Otherwise, read the book or accept the consequences if you don't -or at least come up with a better argument and suggest another book of similar caliber that address the teaching points this book does.

What next, skipping out on certain science classes b/c it goes against your Creationist views? Refusing to read books featuring strong, independent women b/c your religion says that women must be subservient to men? Dodging any art classes featuring naked statues b/c your religion says "no naked bodies"? Refusing to read a book where the protagonist goes to a party and makes lasagna on a Friday night because it went against the Sabbath?
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Lets be cereal, a graphic novel is an overly pretentious comic book. We are not talking about Steinbeck, Hemingway or Kurt Vonnegut here.

I could understand being upset just solely on the basis of spending a fortune on school to go and study comic books.





























"My dad was a big sissy"



"Tough *****."



It almost makes you want to weep for what passes as popular literature nowadays.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:01 AM
 
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Part of the issue is the fact that it's even on the "suggested" reading list. Even it merely being "suggested" reading implies that there's a certain ideological perspective that's being pushed.
There is a difference between pushing a certain ideological perspective, and encouraging exploration of various ideological perspectives ... particularly those that someone is not likely to encounter in their own experiences. The latter is usually the type of thing that is encouraged in higher education.

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Old 08-25-2015, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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A graphic novel isn't the same as a comic books. It can contain themes and motifs and points of discussion, just like any other media that's used in a college class, like film or art.

Besides, the musical Fun Home won a boatload of Tony awards this year, so they're trying to keep the curriculum current.
Comic books can also contain themes and motifs and points of discussion, and they are no less comic books. Graphic Novels are the modern day equivalent of comic books; except given an ostensibly respectable name, with adult graphics included, and sold at a much higher price. Designed for short attention spans. Don't get me wrong -- I don't have any problem with people who want to read them for entertainment (I've read a couple myself), but assigning them to university students is just dumbing down the curriculum.

I find the use of graphic novels in college much more disturbing than the nature of the particular one involved in this case. What will they do, assign a Christian comic instead?
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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A graphic novel isn't the same as a comic books. It can contain themes and motifs and points of discussion, just like any other media that's used in a college class, like film or art.

Besides, the musical Fun Home won a boatload of Tony awards this year, so they're trying to keep the curriculum current.
Intimacies in Alison Bechdel's Fun Home: The Case of Joan | The Comics Grid (Blog) | Janine Utell
looks like a comic book. Just a dumbing down of quality.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Just another example of the great pussification of america.

Don't want to read it? ok?
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