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Old 10-28-2015, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The whole point of retail is that you work when most people are off. Weekends, holidays, evenings, etc.

That said, I agree that they should at least get Christmas and Thanksgiving off.

And I'm sure that emergency personnel receive some type of holiday pay.
Yes, for the holidays themselves, determined by the employer. So Thanksgiving Day, probably (that's one that almost every business gives) but most likely not the day after.
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Old 10-28-2015, 09:54 AM
 
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They must be western USA then because we sure as heck don't have them out here in the east.
We have them in NJ, they're generally in upper middle class areas.
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Old 10-28-2015, 09:55 AM
 
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Good for them. Not sure why everyone here is getting hell-bent and cynical. Like any company, they have a core vision and philosophy and if closing on Black Friday helps achieve that, while taking a stand on something they truly believe then i'm all for it.
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Old 10-28-2015, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Stuck on the East Coast, hoping to head West
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1) Black Friday isn't a holiday

2) REI is doing this as a business move as opposed to caring for their employees. It's a brilliant idea. And it's working to bring awareness, public support for REI.

3) Shoppers shop on weekends and evenings. Why is it so bad to expect employees who service shoppers that they'll have to work when others (including their family & friends) are off?

I don't understand the public outrage. Retail work is horrible. You're working when everyone else is off. It's the nature of the beast. Why is REI so concerned with the day after Thanksgiving? What about the rest of the year? REI should give their employees a regular mon-fri, 9-5 schedule--you know so the employees can enjoy time with their family. Then see how the public responds.
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Old 10-28-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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Yes, for the holidays themselves, determined by the employer. So Thanksgiving Day, probably (that's one that almost every business gives) but most likely not the day after.

I guess I work for the only city in the US that considers this a paid holiday. Our emergency personnel will get two days of holiday pay.
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Old 10-28-2015, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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I guess I work for the only city in the US that considers this a paid holiday. Our emergency personnel will get two days of holiday pay.
It's a holiday at my company too.
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Old 10-28-2015, 11:36 AM
 
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REI usually has better quality items. The Wal-Mart crowd probably is not the target demographic for REI. Smart move on REI's part because as someone pointed out earlier, REI customers are going to do a lot of their shopping on-line anyway. They look good and don't lose business.
I always considered REI to be expensive. I do applaud them for this move and will looking at their website. If they have items on sale, then I will order as there is no store around here. I stay away from stores that whole weekend now. Been there, done that!!
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Old 10-28-2015, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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Yes, for the holidays themselves, determined by the employer. So Thanksgiving Day, probably (that's one that almost every business gives) but most likely not the day after.
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1) Black Friday isn't a holiday

2) REI is doing this as a business move as opposed to caring for their employees. It's a brilliant idea. And it's working to bring awareness, public support for REI.

3) Shoppers shop on weekends and evenings. Why is it so bad to expect employees who service shoppers that they'll have to work when others (including their family & friends) are off?

I don't understand the public outrage. Retail work is horrible. You're working when everyone else is off. It's the nature of the beast. Why is REI so concerned with the day after Thanksgiving? What about the rest of the year? REI should give their employees a regular mon-fri, 9-5 schedule--you know so the employees can enjoy time with their family. Then see how the public responds.
Again, the day after Thanksgiving is a common work holiday. I previously cited my own experience working for large companies (both Pillsbury and General Mills), both of which followed that practice at least back as far as the 1990s.

This article is from 2012:
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Nearly three of four companies have scheduled both Thanksgiving Day (Nov. 22) and the following Friday (Nov. 23) — aka Black Friday — as paid days off for all or most of the work force this year, according to a survey of 628 employers conducted by Bloomberg BNA, a legal, regulatory and business information service.
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Small businesses are more generous than large enterprises in offering four-day Thanksgiving weekends to their workers, the survey found. Two paid days off for Thanksgiving have been scheduled by more than four of five firms (81 percent) with fewer than 1,000 employees; only slightly more than half (56 percent) of larger organizations will do the same.
Talking Turkey about Thanksgiving Time Off

To repeat - Friday, the day after Thanksgiving, as a paid day off is the norm.
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Old 10-28-2015, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Good for them. Not sure why everyone here is getting hell-bent and cynical. Like any company, they have a core vision and philosophy and if closing on Black Friday helps achieve that, while taking a stand on something they truly believe then i'm all for it.
I agree totally. Let them do as they please when it comes to what days they are open or closed.

Just curious - how do you feel about Hobby Lobby's core vision and philosophy and taking a stand on something the owners believe in?
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Old 10-28-2015, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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My husband is an electrical designer, and every company he has ever worked for has been closed on Thanksgiving Friday. In some companies it was a paid day off, and in some companies employees had to take a PTO in order to be paid for it, but the offices were closed.

Also, a few years back in Maine, my husband also got Good Friday off with pay, but that was the only company he ever worked that that happened!
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