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Old 12-11-2015, 03:51 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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I read "Time" and I do not consider it "irrelevant". I think Angela Merkel was a good choice.
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Old 12-11-2015, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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No, Putin doesn't seem to stir up the same level of anger among Americans as Merkel does. It's puzzling because Putin is a tremendous geo-political threat while what is going on in Germany is not nearly as much of a concern. That is what worries me, people here are focusing on German culture rather than real and present threats. It's akin to focusing on outdated kitchen counter-tops when the roof is falling apart.
People who display tons of unsubstantiated vitriol rarely aim it at sources of GENUINE problems. Merely the ones that anger them on some deep personal level that is beyond facts or even logic (e.g. Michelle Obama's vegetable garden).

The same people who hate President Obama with a passion also hate Chancellor Merkel, even though any time I've questioned them, they don't even seem to know much about her and certainly not her government's policies. Try asking them to explain the difference between the Social Democratic Party and the Christian Social Union. It's enough that Merkel's a woman with a tremendous amount of power. For the same reason Obama ... well. you know.

If Hillary Clinton is elected president, she will be in for histrionic treatment beyond any she's already endured for decades. She could bring about world peace, cure cancer, and find gold mines in the national parks, and certain people will say but ... but ... but ... she should have been babysitting her grandchild.
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Old 12-11-2015, 05:28 PM
 
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If Hillary Clinton is elected president, she will be in for histrionic treatment beyond any she's already endured for decades. She could bring about world peace, cure cancer, and find gold mines in the national parks, and certain people will say but ... but ... but ... she should have been babysitting her grandchild.

If she is "all that" she should be able to do all those things and at the same time babysit her grandchildren and still have lots of spare time... fact is she isn't anything close to being the person for the job
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Old 12-11-2015, 10:57 PM
 
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Allow me to educate you on a couple of points.

1. The "Person of the Year" award is simply awarded to the person who makes more news or bigger news than anyone else does. It is not an honor bestowed on someone for good achievements. Adolph Hitler was given this award in the late 1930's by Time for that very reason. He made more news than any other figure did. Frankly, I get a little tired of people who keep imagining the award is given for the greatest contribution to humanity or something like that.
Funny how Hitler got this award and now Merkel receives it too. Two people who will be most responsible for destroying their nation decades apart.

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2. Of course there was no referendum on Merkel's decision. Do you understand how a parliamentary system works? In order to stay in power as German Chancellor, Merkel has to enjoy majority support in the German parliament (or "Bundestag" as I think it is called). If Merkel didn't enjoy this support, her party or a majority of representatives could vote to remove her from office at any time. Its not like a presidential election where she runs for office every four years and is basically untouchable during that term of office. In other words, the German system of government is structured so that if people highly disapprove of this decision, Merkel can be removed from office and new elections will have to take place.
Yes I know how the parliamentary system works because I've read about it before and I'm currently living in Canada which also has the same system. This doesn't mean that Merkel couldn't have held a public vote to let Germans decide whether they want to take on this MASSIVE BURDEN for many years if not decades in addition to having even more Muslims in their country. That would've been the RIGHT THING TO DO rather than simply forcing these refugees onto her people without any regard to public opinion.

Germany expects up to 1.5 million asylum seekers in 2015, says report | World news | The Guardian
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German authorities expect up to 1.5 million asylum seekers to arrive in Germany this year, the Bild daily said in a report to be published on Monday, up from a previous estimate of 800,000 to 1 million.
In ONE SINGLE YEAR Germany is potentially adding almost 2% population to its 80 million people and this is for 2015 only. Do you really think refugees are going to suddenly stop coming in 2016, 2017, 2018 etc etc?? Of course not. F**KING Merkel has told refugees loud and clear that if they come the west will take care of them. This means there will be a NEVER ENDING STREAM of refugees coming until eventually Europe and the west finally get their heads out of their a$$es and realize that enough is enough, but not before millions of Muslims will have entered western nations.

Germany alone is expected to spend anywhere between 22-55 BILLION annually to take care of these people and other countries will have to spend billions as well to take care of the refugees they're forced to take on. So maybe if Merkel wasn't such dictorial traitor, she would've had the guts and the decency to ask her people whether they wanted to take on this responsibility. And this goes for the rest of the western nations as well. At least give people the chance to voice their opinions and say NO to this stupid undertaking.


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3. There are 1 billion Muslims in this world. Categorizing them all the way you do is just silly. Perhaps since the crime rate is greater among virtually all minorities we should apply your rule to all of them as well? There is a serious refugee problem in the Middle East. Europe and the USA have to step up to deal with this problem. I agree we need to properly screen each refugee we admit to our country and this may take some time. However, nations have a responsibility to take in legitimate refugees. None of the nations of the world can abrogate their responsibilities.
Why is the west OBLIGATED to help these people? And even if we for some reason need to help them, why does that help have to come in the form of having MILLIONS of them settling in our countries?? Why not simply setup camps where we can contribute supplies and money and house them there until the war in Syria ends and then they can go back and help rebuild their country?

Why is such a plan not possible and is seen as inhuman and that the ONLY solution is to take them into our nations? We see countries like Japan who are allowed to simply contribute money and NOT take on refugees, yet when any western nation does it they're burned at the stake for it?? How hypocritical are these people who have no problem criticizing European countries for closing their borders to refugees, but won't do the same to Japan or South Korea who refuse to take on refugees because they're SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW that doing so is a bad idea.

Why isn't Merkel and her kind not condemning both those rich nations day after day for not 'taking their share' of the refugees? Maybe because they know that both Japan and South Korea have the BALLS to simply say 'F**K YOU and your stupid plans. We WANT to preserve our country, our beliefs and our values and bringing in Muslims to destroy our nations is NOT a good idea'. That's why Merkel and her kind won't say sh$t to those countries, but its a damn shame that western nations don't have the guts to do the same.
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Old 12-12-2015, 07:23 AM
 
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Soon Europe and especially Germany won't be fit to visit anymore.
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Old 12-12-2015, 08:11 AM
 
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Soon Europe and especially Germany won't be fit to visit anymore.
Yeah, so? There are plenty of other great places to visit.
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Old 12-12-2015, 09:30 AM
 
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Default Time magazine names German leader Angela Merkel its Person of the Year

yawn...
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Old 12-14-2015, 12:02 PM
 
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Yeah, so? There are plenty of other great places to visit.
Yes, your hatred for Germany is noted. Give it a rest.
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Old 12-14-2015, 12:04 PM
 
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Not now, but give it time. The German birth rate is well below the replacement rate. The typical Muslim birth rate is 3.1, well above the replacement rate of 2.1. Given the discrepancy, its simply a matter of how long it takes for Muslim culture to overwhelm German culture.
In Germany? Do you have data to back that up?
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Old 12-14-2015, 12:07 PM
 
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Those are very important points. Is it worth all the lamenting and handwringing over a culture that is slowly self-extinguishing itself? Obviously German culture is not great if the people collectively are not sustaining a stable birth rate. The refugee matter is merely accelerating the inevitable.
Well, then White American culture, Japanese Culture, Korean Culture, Italian Culture, Spanish Culture, Danish Culture, Swedish Culture, Finnish Culture, Polish Culture, etc. aren't great either. They are all self-extinguishing themselves as well.
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