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CRY ME A RIVER! Buy your own land and grow your own berries and create your own horse trails. See how much that costs you. That's what we do here in the East.
As for ATVs, keep the f'ng things on your own property; my brothers and I have had to put up gates and barriers on all our logging/farm roads to keep the jackasses out because they turn mud puddles into rutted ponds, tear up grassy hillsides, knock over seedling trees, and even ride across planted fields.
If you start a fire on your own property that gets out of control and spreads to somebody else's property, you're going to face fines and possibly jail anywhere in the US, especially if you set that fire to cover up illegal activity. You'll also get sued by your neighbor if the fire you started burns down your neighbor's garage.
I'm really getting sick and tired of westerners constantly whining about having to pay to use/exploit public lands for their own profit. If you don't want to deal with the federal government and its restrictions on using public lands, then buy your own land and be done with it. Don't tell me there aren't plenty of privately owned ranches in the West; it's just a lot cheaper to use federal lands rather than sink big $$$ into your own.
Except as I showed above quite a bit of land in the west is currently OWNED or CONTROLLED by the government.
Kind of hard to buy something that they're not making any more of now isn't it?
I agree. It is easy for you to be unconcerned about arson because it in not in YOUR backyard. I think you would have a different view if it were where YOU live.
I'm sorry, I've LIVED where the U.S. Forest service repeatedly commits/committed arson, errr, backfires that went out of control, had to help friends evacuate and sucked smoke all summer long. You??
The Hammons got thrown in the pokey for arson. They set a brush fire on federal land to hide the fact that they were poaching wildlife, and at least one of their pals ratted them out. That they did this is not in question, and they may have even plead guilty. At any rate, they aren't part of this militia BS.
BTW, it's not "unconstitutional" for the federal government to own and manage land and/or to purchase land for a wildlife refuge or other use.
It may not be unconstitutional, but it is certainly illegal. The Malheur Refuge was stolen from the Paiute tribe. It is their reservation land by treaty.
I'm sorry, I've LIVED where the U.S. Forest service repeatedly commits/committed arson, errr, backfires that went out of control, had to help friends evacuate and sucked smoke all summer long. You??
Yawn.........are those guys still there ? I kinda lost interest about 1 hour after they first showed up there. Let the winter and hunger work on them for a while, that will bring this fiasco to a quick end.
These idiots really thought this one through carefully, didn't they ?
Don
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Don't tell me there aren't plenty of privately owned ranches in the West; it's just a lot cheaper to use federal lands rather than sink big $$$ into your own.
