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I really feel for the parents, family and friends. We have to wonder how kids could get to be so screwed up. Where did society and, more importantly, their parents fail them?
Last edited by bobandsherry; 10-08-2016 at 09:40 AM..
Such a sad situation and maybe could have been avoided.
In my opinion, a sane child/adult doesn't shoot a parent and then go shoot a bunch of people at a school or work or theater.
Mental illness strikes all ages, including children. We can look at the parents but we really need to look at the mental health care system that seems to fail many families. I think many people go undiagnosed because family/friends think they are just "going through a rough time" or have "anger issues".
I'm sure I'll catch grief from the atheists and secular crowd for even thinking this, but could there be some correlation between our removal of religion from all aspects of our lives and the lack of respect for others lives? Just food for thought.
Mental Illness
Breakdown of the family
Increase in drug use among younger children
Lack of respect for themselves and others
No home training
No spiritual guidance
Parents not letting their children take responsibility for their actions
I think all of the above plays a part in the increase of violence among children.
Such a sad situation and maybe could have been avoided.
In my opinion, a sane child/adult doesn't shoot a parent and then go shoot a bunch of people at a school or work or theater.
Mental illness strikes all ages, including children. We can look at the parents but we really need to look at the mental health care system that seems to fail many families. I think many people go undiagnosed because family/friends think they are just "going through a rough time" or have "anger issues".
Red flags are there, but are often overlooked.
The question is, and it applies regardless of age, how do you positively identify those who may have a mental illness, that may be capable of doing harm to someone else, and may require intervention... and do all of that before they actually commit a crime. Fortunately, or unfortunately depending on your point of view, we don't have a system that forces people (children included) to undergo mental health care or into institutions until after they have committed a crime. You can talk about mental health care and prevention all you want, but I have yet to hear just how we go about doing that for these individuals without suspending most of their constitutional rights in the process. It's a normal reaction to want to prevent things like this from happening again, I'm just not sure we will ever know how to do that, or even if it's possible at all.
I'm sure I'll catch grief from the atheists and secular crowd for even thinking this, but could there be some correlation between our removal of religion from all aspects of our lives and the lack of respect for others lives? Just food for thought.
Apparently the opposite is true.
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Think religion makes society less violent? Think again. The theory is simple: If people become less religious, then society will decay. Crime will skyrocket, violence will rise, and once-civilized life will degenerate into immorality and depravity. It's an old, widespread notion. And it's demonstrably false.
If it were true that when belief in God weakens, societal well-being diminishes, then we should see abundant evidence for this. But we don't. In fact, we find just the opposite: Those societies today that are the most religious — where faith in God is strong and religious participation is high — tend to have the highest violent crime rates, while those societies in which faith and church attendance are the weakest — the most secular societies — tend to have the lowest. Think religion makes society less violent? Think again. - LA Times
I'm sure I'll catch grief from the atheists and secular crowd for even thinking this, but could there be some correlation between our removal of religion from all aspects of our lives and the lack of respect for others lives? Just food for thought.
Not to say that a religious society, even one of my own, is a bad one, but there is certainly not a correlation between high religiosity and a peacable, respectful society. Historically, the value of human life and respect in society has been rather variable in highly religious societies.
The obvious contemporary example are the societies of fundamentalist Islamists who live very religious lives and the level of respect for their fellows, whether infidel or Muslim, is abominable. Beheadings, stonings, honor crimes, and so forth are a disturbing side of their religious societies.
But is is not only Muslims. Even religions with a much more 'humane' doctrine can be violent and unjust. As recently as my grandparent's generation, good Christian Americans were lynching and burning Black people without any sort of trial or decent evidence for any crime. They were just scapegoated by good Christian folk. A century or two earlier, local disputes often took the form of accusing people of witchcraft for which they were tortured, drowned, hanged, and burned. We can go on and on with the way Catholic and Protestants warred for souls, and pretty much the whole Middle Ages.
Meanwhile, there are secular societies with high levels of atheism that have far fewer interpersonal crime and strife, low murder rates, low property crime, etc.
I'm sure I'll catch grief from the atheists and secular crowd for even thinking this, but could there be some correlation between our removal of religion from all aspects of our lives and the lack of respect for others lives? Just food for thought.
Morality is not dependent on religion. Some of the most moral people I know are atheists. Donnie says he is the evangelical's choice...and yet what did we hear from him lately?
You have every right to practice YOUR religion to your heart's content. Let others do the same. That shows humility and respect for others...a very Christian trait.
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