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Old 08-18-2017, 11:49 AM
 
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Addiction is classified as a disease by the American Medical Association as well as other groups. You don't have to agree, but that is how it is classified.
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Old 08-18-2017, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Addiction is classified as a disease by the American Medical Association as well as other groups. You don't have to agree, but that is how it is classified.
Pressured by political correctness and rehab centers (which are nothing more than a revolving door - money, money, money), nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 08-18-2017, 01:10 PM
 
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^ Yes, that is very rude, actually. I don't think that there are any adults in this country (if so, very few) who don't know about the risks of smoking. They don't need children to tell them about it.
As judging from the comments on C-D threads especially this one, many posters have no social skills so I'm not surprised.
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Old 08-18-2017, 01:19 PM
 
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Black, White, Green or Blue, what's the difference? We've become totally divided by race, economics, political pursuasion - too many tribes.

And as far as starting a new job. Just another case of the inevitable happening to someone who "was jut getting his/her life together."
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Old 08-18-2017, 02:17 PM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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Yes. Because pain pills do one thing: they eat pain. If the person is not really in much pain, they get high, and that's what they get addicted to.
Physical dependence on opioids isn't a matter of will. A person who takes an opioid painkiller regularly for real pain will still develop a physical dependence on the drug, even if they're not chasing a high. Also, it's a myth that you can't get high on an medicinal dose of pain meds if you're in pain.

I'd venture that the biggest danger zone for psychological addiction (in addition to physical dependence) to prescribed painkillers is when someone both has personal issues to "escape," and also has a legitimate chronic condition for which painkillers are appropriate, even necessary. The latter can mask that the meds are also being used toward the former, until the person has developed a full-fledged addiction. And, of course, opioid withdrawal can cause discomfort and exacerbate other physical pain, so that encourages a person to continue taking (and increasing the dose) of the drug against that pain.

And that's before we even get into the idea that some people are more predisposed to addiction than others. I just don't think it's as clear-cut as you're making it out to be.

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May not be, but Pot really is a gateway drug. I have had cousins and friends lose their lives on Cocaine and Heroin, and it always started with pot. Even though I voted for the legalization of it in my state I know the downside too.
I'm so sorry about your loved ones.

Personally, I don't really believe the "gateway drug" idea, with one major caveat, which I'll mention in a bit. I think people who are curious/reckless/comfortable/etc. enough with the idea of consuming illegal mind-altering and/or mood-altering substances are likely to start with marijuana because it's relatively affordable and easy to obtain. Then some people from that same demographic are also the ones who go on to harder drugs. I have my doubts that pot use leads to other drug use, more like people who want to swim the deep end of the pool usually pass through the shallow end first.

That said - I do think there are cases where a young person hears terrible things about pot smokers and about the dangerous effects of pot. Then they see successful people using cannabis, or try it themselves and see it's not that risky...so they ALSO disregard the warnings about truly dangerous substances, because of the loss of credibility of the warnings.

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No, we're tired of hearing about...
I guess someone forced you to click on and read this thread, then? Do you need someone to report a hostage situation to local authorities?
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Old 08-18-2017, 03:41 PM
 
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No, we're tired of hearing about and seeing these sorry individuals and told they have a 'disease.'
My local paper runs stories about it on a regular basis and there's plenty of commercials and billboards all over the place insinuating that it's "not their fault."
And, trust me, they're hurting themselves, it's not the comments.
These people actually think they're helping these addicts. And then you read stories like this and realize that they're not helping, they're just enabling them. And making the rest of us pay for it.

Staten Island man overdoses twice in 12 hours and is saved both times with naloxone

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A Staten Island drug user overdosed twice in a 12 1/2-hour span — but was brought back from the brink of death each time by medics carrying the life-saving drug naloxone, police sources said Tuesday.

On Friday, Nicholas Manz, 28, was found passed out in a car on Richmond Ave. near Amboy Road in Eltingville about 7:30 p.m.

Medics revived him with naloxone and took him to a hospital, official said.

Cops found a straw with white powder residue on it in the car, sources said.

At about 7 a.m. the next day, his 65-year-old father found Manz unconscious in his bedroom at their Eltingville home.

Medics revived him with two doses of naloxone and again took him to the hospital.

Police found a folded piece of paper with a white powder in his room.

Manz’s family declined to comment when reached Tuesday.
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Old 08-18-2017, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Be careful who you hate. It might be someone you love.
Where did I say I hate anybody? AND, it's already somebody I love, plus I lost my favorite cousin to heroin.
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Old 08-18-2017, 04:23 PM
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Where did I say I hate anybody? AND, it's already somebody I love, plus I lost my favorite cousin to heroin.
I thought so, actually. Your level of "don't care, no sympathy, tired of being asked to care" is a cover for the fact that you care deeply.
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I thought so, actually. Your level of "don't care, no sympathy, tired of being asked to care" is a cover for the fact that you care deeply.
Oh, how wrong you are. What happened to my cousin happened quickly, there was no time to be worried or to care. And I've given up on my other selfish family member.
I actually hate hearing when junkies are revived using Narcan. All it does is enable them to continue to steal from hard working tax payers, destroy families and abuse the system.
Take your amateur psychology elsewhere.
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Old 08-18-2017, 10:15 PM
 
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That is literally the dumbest thing I've read all day.
I was pretty sure you weren't well read. Your post removes all doubt.
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