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Being as that may only idiots and the naïve pay full retail NYC prices for tobacco products. There is a *HUGE* underground market for cigarettes/tobacco products to the extent if you know where to look, and you don't have to look far, you can find ciggies at one half to one-third retail prices.
Pennsylvania is a popular destination, but so is New Jersey and the Indian reservations upstate or out on Long Island.
You can take the PATH train just across the Hudson River to New Jersey (a less than ten minute trip depending upon where you live in Manhattan), and get smokes for around $9/per pack. Not a big difference if only buying a pack or two, but once you start going up into the carton or more range....
Can't get cigs online anymore. It was outlawed a few yrs ago. Put a DEEP cut in the Indian nation business.
Laws are as good as are enforced. I'm not advocating breaking any law (it would be stupid to do so on public forum), I doubt that black market won't find a solution to the problem when there's such a huge price difference between NYC and real cost of cigarettes. But then, anyone in NYC deserve that kind of government they have.
federal law allows online sales, but snitches on buyers to their home state
Just wait until the feds finally legalize pot, and we'll see the same set of action-reaction rules play out again, just in fast forward. Maybe a whole new generation of Americans will take up gardening?
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Can't get cigs online anymore. It was outlawed a few yrs ago. Put a DEEP cut in the Indian nation business.
Laws are as good as are enforced. I'm not advocating breaking any law (it would be stupid to do so on public forum), I doubt that black market won't find a solution to the problem when there's such a huge price difference between NYC and real cost of cigarettes. But then, anyone in NYC deserve that kind of government they have.
The unintended consequence of extremely high tobacco taxes is that this actually increases underage smoking -- the legitimization of "black market" channels for tobacco sales in the eyes of adult consumers also opens up these same channels for younger buyers:
Most tribal sellers have stopped mail order sales and can't get untaxed supplies of name-brands, but Seneca Nation and other res smoke shops near NY sell Native-made and Territory-made cigarettes for a tiny fraction of the full-tax price.
The higher the tax, the easier it is for people to convince themselves that tax evasion is justifiable.
Just buy bootleg cigarettes at your local market. Anyone know the current price of bootlegs?
I don't smoke, and I'm in London, U.K., but I asked around, and it seems to be about £4.00 ($5.18) per pack.
Though I was also told of recent Government advice, (possibly scare tactics), which said that illegally smuggled cigarettes from China and Eastern Europe, some being counterfeit, contained higher concentrations of arsenic, also rat droppings, possibly human excrement, 160% higher tar levels, 133% higher Carbon Monoxide, 6 times the amount of lead, 80% nicotine, and 5 times the amount of cadmium, boy, I'm glad that I don't have to think about that!
Recall dad paying 15 cents a pack in the late 1940s and early 1950s.
When I took up the habit in 1958, it was 30 cents in the machine and 26-30 cents across the counter. And those prices stayed constant for a very long time after that.
And of course, the US Army provided cigarettes for free in our C-Rations.
Laws are as good as are enforced. I'm not advocating breaking any law (it would be stupid to do so on public forum), I doubt that black market won't find a solution to the problem when there's such a huge price difference between NYC and real cost of cigarettes. But then, anyone in NYC deserve that kind of government they have.
Well.. we used to order them online but suddenly they could only cell cigars and pipe tobacco. I tried about 20 places... If you know of an online place that still can sell them.... clue me in?
Recall dad paying 15 cents a pack in the late 1940s and early 1950s.
When I took up the habit in 1958, it was 30 cents in the machine and 26-30 cents across the counter. And those prices stayed constant for a very long time after that.
And of course, the US Army provided cigarettes for free in our C-Rations.
I wonder if the military still does that?
I can remember walking to the store to buy them for my mom around 63/64 and they were .33 (in Ct).
Not for everyone. My husband smokes the long ones... and he usually lights one up a few minutes after the last one. He can no longer do much so he sits on his computer all day and yes.. he can squeeze in all those smokes. The only time he goes longer in between is if the grandkids are here.
How is he getting his cigs?
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