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Blaming the passenger is quite a stretch here... the airline staff was idiotic to put a animal in the overhead bins that are meant for luggage. This airline clearly has very poorly trained staff and very poor decision making in general. Time after time their staff including upto the level of the CEO has exhibited exceptionally poor judgement. Even a moron knows not to put an animal in a spot that may be compromised for ventilation and that animals encounter stress in these situations that can cause their demise.
Blaming the passenger is hardly a stretch.....
If FA was unaware of regulations, policies or whatever that doesn't absolve the owner who ALLOWED the poorly trained staff to take poorly trained staff actions.
Passenger could have said something along the lines of "I believe you are mistaken, I will disembark and catch the next flight with staff that know the policies/ regulations."
One of the first comments in this thread was "Keep your pets at home". Well what if I need to move my pet to a new home 2,500 miles away? Am I allowed to use an airline to transport my pet or should I drive with them in the car for 36 hours?
If you aren't crossing any oceans, I would say drive. You can control the length of daily travel time, you can stop for rest breaks whenever you want to (or the animal needs to), and you don't have to worry about other people grumbling about the fact that there is an animal in their midst. It will be much less stressful for the pets as well.
If you aren't crossing any oceans, I would say drive. You can control the length of daily travel time, you can stop for rest breaks whenever you want to (or the animal needs to), and you don't have to worry about other people grumbling about the fact that there is an animal in their midst. It will be much less stressful for the pets as well.
36 hours in a carrier in a car + 4-6 nights in a hotel isn't less stressful for my pet than being a plane for 5 hours in a carrier bag under the seat in front of me.
36 hours in a carrier in a car + 4-6 nights in a hotel isn't less stressful for my pet than being a plane for 5 hours in a carrier bag under the seat in front of me.
My dog gets anxiety when we take her new places, because she associates it with us going away. When we go away and someone watches her, they often watch her at their house because it's easier than coming into ours various times a day to let her out and feed her. She even freaks when she sees suitcases, even if only one person is going away (like on business) and everyone else is staying put. It takes some times for her to settle down once in a new place. She would be in a constant state of anxiety on a cross-country road trip. She would also be nervous on a plane, but like you said, the plane ride is a fraction of the driving time and she'll be settled in her new place much faster that way.
Dogs have feelings and can manifest them. I am not a crazy dog person who treats my dog like a human, but I do treat her like she has feelings, because she does. I do try to consider her interests as much as I reasonably can in a situation that involves her. If I wanted to treat my dog like something I have complete control over, screw her interests and safety and put her at risk, well... I wouldn't have a dog.
One of the first comments in this thread was "Keep your pets at home". Well what if I need to move my pet to a new home 2,500 miles away? Am I allowed to use an airline to transport my pet or should I drive with them in the car for 36 hours?
This is one reason why airlines try to accommodate people and their smaller pets.
My son and his girlfriend had to move across the country a few months ago, and they had two cats with them. They didn't want to put the cats through such a long trip, but there was little other choice in the matter. So they had the cats lightly sedated to help them relax, and had them in carriers on a plane that allowed pet carriers in the cabin section.
My heart truly goes out to the family who lost their pup. Absolutely avoidable tragedy, and not the family's fault. Very often, if someone is reassured by a person who is (supposedly) in control and is aware of regulations tells them that their pet will be fine, they will believe it. The family was grossly misled. Many of us would resist and would not do such a thing (yes, I would be one of them), but many others would also take the airline employee at their word, believing that what they were being told - that there would be no harm in putting the dog carrier in the overhead bin - was true.
"'It's a dog, it's a dog.' He can't breathe up there.' And she said, 'It doesn't matter, it still goes up there.... She felt the dog and she put him up there," Sophia recalled.
Curious if anyone here has ever seen an animal be placed in the overhead bins before? It seems like an odd choice - why not put another piece of luggage in that spot instead?
United Airlines requires dogs to be in carriers with 4 sides ventilation for brachyocephalic dogs> https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...ls/kennel.html.
Not only that, French Bulldogs adults are not allowed at all, only puppies up to 6 months. This puppy was older than that.
These restrictions apply to purebreds and mixes of these breeds.
Pet policies based on origin or destination
Embargoed dog breeds: Short-nosed
Embargo details
Travel conditions
English Bulldogs
French Bulldogs
Olde English Bulldogges
Shorty Bulldogs
Spanish Alano/Alano
Español/Spanish Bulldog*
Adult dogs are not accepted for travel at any time
Embargo does not apply to puppies up to six months and less than 20 pounds
*Spanish Alano puppies may be accepted up to six months old, if less than 60 pounds.
United Airlines requires dogs to be in carriers with 4 sides ventilation for brachyocephalic dogs> https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...ls/kennel.html.
Not only that, French Bulldogs adults are not allowed at all, only puppies up to 6 months. This puppy was older than that.
These restrictions apply to purebreds and mixes of these breeds.
Pet policies based on origin or destination
Embargoed dog breeds: Short-nosed
Embargo details
Travel conditions
English Bulldogs
French Bulldogs
Olde English Bulldogges
Shorty Bulldogs
Spanish Alano/Alano
Español/Spanish Bulldog*
Adult dogs are not accepted for travel at any time
Embargo does not apply to puppies up to six months and less than 20 pounds
*Spanish Alano puppies may be accepted up to six months old, if less than 60 pounds.
The page you linked is regarding pets transported in the cargo hold. Not pets flying in the cabin.
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