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Old 10-08-2018, 07:38 PM
Status: "I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out." (set 4 days ago)
 
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Originally Posted by Bette View Post
First, the group was on a bus. It broke down.

Then, this vehicle was sent.

They were being responsible adults.

One of the victims texted a relative stating the limo was in awful condition before the crash.

Heartbreaking.

Those poor families. I cannot imagine.
Bette, is this information available in the media, or do you know these people personally?

I will agree, when I saw the wrecked vehicle, it appeared to be a real "beater" even before the wreck - not something I would agree to rent. Interesting that this was not in fact, the vehicle they rented.
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:39 PM
 
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What are you trying to say, that it didn't really happen?

A mother and father lost four of their children in this crash, along with three sons-in-law. Another mother and father lost their 2 sons, Others also lost their sons and daughters, their sisters and brothers, their friends..,young children lost their parents... It happened.

I don't know why you need to see pictures of the limo. I can't imagine being a first responder to a scene like that, with 18 dead in the limo and 2 pedestrians dead.

You can see part if the limo in this video:
https://www.wjhl.com/news/20-die-whe...728/1507403816
Nobody is saying that it is not tragic.

I agree that it seems strange that among such a large group of young people that there weren't a few survivors.

I've read about accidents about wrong way head on collisions at faster speeds where there are multiple survivors.

Some really bad luck.
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:49 PM
 
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Bette, is this information available in the media, or do you know these people personally?

I will agree, when I saw the wrecked vehicle, it appeared to be a real "beater" even before the wreck - not something I would agree to rent. Interesting that this was not in fact, the vehicle they rented.
Looking for other info, I just found that info here - https://www.syracuse.com/state/index...imo_crash.html

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Nobody is saying that it is not tragic.

I agree that it seems strange that among such a large group of young people that there weren't a few survivors.

I've read about accidents about wrong way head on collisions at faster speeds where there are multiple survivors.

Some really bad luck.
Apparently the limo, which wasn't up to federal code and should not have been driving in NYS, basically failed two inspections if I understand correctly/if info I've seen is correct, went through a T-shaped intersection at (again, if this report is true) roughly 60 mph, then slammed into some trees, and also hit a parked car, which hit and killed two pedestrians. I'm not surprised that everyone died, especially because people don't always wear seat belts in limos. Stretch limos aren't the safest cars in the first place, even if they pass inspection and all wear seatbelts.
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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What ever amount of insurance the company had on the vehicle, I'm certain it's not enough to cover the deaths of 20 people.
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Even plane crashes have survivors. How could EVERYONE die?
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:22 PM
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This is SO VERY sad. Reminds me of an air balloon accident that happened in Central Texas a couple years ago.

Everyone died.

Sixteen people died in this crash. It was also suspicious about licensing, and equipment. In this hot air balloon case, the pilot/owner of the company was killed, ending any criminal investigation. Sad.

This really seems like the particulars are quite similar.

https://www.statesman.com/NEWS/20160...-near-Lockhart

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Old 10-08-2018, 08:24 PM
 
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Even plane crashes have survivors. How could EVERYONE die?
Because they did.

Just as people don't always survive plane crashes, people don't always survive car crashes either.
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Southern MN
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There are a lot of peculiar things about this tragic accident.
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:35 PM
 
Location: 912 feet above sea level
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Even plane crashes have survivors. How could EVERYONE die?
Uh ... some plane crashes have survivors. And some don't.

The same with automobile crashes. It's a limo. It is likely that none of the passengers were belted in. Is it really a surprise that a crash at 60+ mph where most if not all people (including the driver - it sounds like this company didn't give a rat's ass about regulations) were not wearing seat belts died?

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No. It's not.
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Uh ... some plane crashes have survivors. And some don't.

The same with automobile crashes. It's a limo. It is likely that none of the passengers were belted in. Is it really a surprise that a crash at 60+ mph where most if not all people (including the driver - it sounds like this company didn't give a rat's ass about regulations) were not wearing seat belts died?

Spoiler
No. It's not.
Has it been substantiated that they weren't wearing seat belts? Just wondering. It's horrific. Just awful beyond words. Just seems hard to comprehend I guess.
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