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Give me a break. They did not stop a robbery. The two of them tackled the guy from behind, while he was running out of the store. They were trying to prevent him from leaving, not stopping a robbery. All they had to do is let him leave, then let the police deal with the situation. But instead they decided to play cop, and they created a liability situation for CVS. It would not be a good business decision to allow their employees to conduct themselves that way.
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This.
Succinct. And reasonable, because the poster hasn't used every opportunity to conflate the issue with a histrionic disdain for guns.
[quote=ocnjgirl;53859481]Actually employee theft costs stores much more than shoplifting does. I think it’s nuts to expect or allow untrained store clerks to act like cops. They not only endanger themselves but other customers if they decide to play hero.
Robberies account for very little of a companies lost revenue. Let them have it. Its not worth losing your life. Here is something to consider.
Consider statistics from the American Society of Employers:
Businesses lose 20% of every dollar to employee theft.
20% of employees are aware of fraud at their companies (including theft of office items, false claims of hours worked, and inflated expense accounts)
55% of perpetrators are managers.
44% of workers say their companies could do more to reduce fraud.
The U.S. Retail Industry loses $53.6 Billion a year due to employee theft.
60% of companies have staff trained to deal with fraud and ethics issues (up from 30% in 2000).
Unbelievable, I understand the policy, CVS is rich enough to swallow the robbery but I don't agree with them firing the clerk and pharmacist because their instinct came through! How many homicides are committed even though the robber got what they came for?
Dammed if you do and dammed if you don't nowadays. Is this snowflake policy or mearly trying to protect people?
I've noticed that the term 'snowflake' has now gone where 'politically correct' went long ago -- people haven't the foggiest idea what it actually means, and just use it to describe any policy they don't like.
Actually employee theft costs stores much more than shoplifting does. I think it’s nuts to expect or allow untrained store clerks to act like cops. They not only endanger themselves but other customers if they decide to play hero.
Robberies account for very little of a companies lost revenue. Let them have it. Its not worth losing your life. Here is something to consider.
Consider statistics from the American Society of Employers:
Businesses lose 20% of every dollar to employee theft.
20% of employees are aware of fraud at their companies (including theft of office items, false claims of hours worked, and inflated expense accounts)
55% of perpetrators are managers.
44% of workers say their companies could do more to reduce fraud.
The U.S. Retail Industry loses $53.6 Billion a year due to employee theft.
60% of companies have staff trained to deal with fraud and ethics issues (up from 30% in 2000).
20% for employee theft? This must include "stealing time" aka slacking off
I've noticed that the term 'snowflake' has now gone where 'politically correct' went long ago -- people haven't the foggiest idea what it actually means, and just use it to describe any policy they don't like.
20% for employee theft? This must include "stealing time" aka slacking off
I think that's listed - false time claims would have to include fifteen minutes smoking a doobie out behind the warehouse as well as falsified clocking in and out.
I think the figure is a little padded but not completely out of whack, especially for retail businesses where pilferage would be continual.
If the robber touched any employees during the robbery, or if he used a weapon, it probably ups it to a felony. Additionally, since drugs were involved as the object, that may itself up it to a felony.
All this aside, mere petty theft shoplifting can be enhanced to a felony, depends on the specific facts, such as this not being the first offense, multiple thefts/attempts in one day, say 400.00 each time, that's 1,200.00, so the 1,000.00 limit for one may not apply. Now I have not looked at any laws, but these facts could be material legally.
I agree but we are now playing the location game. Two states let alone counties and cities within a state may have different laws and different Sheriff or police departments and prosecutors who may think one way or another. It isn't a black and white issue.
20% for employee theft? This must include "stealing time" aka slacking off
If that were the case it would be much much larger. Mainly because of what defines as "stealing time" is. Is it bathroom usage (which is a need), being late/leaving early, a water/drink break, a quick snack for a pick me up, a walk away to calm yourself from a troubling situation or simply posting on Facebook or City-Data rather than working?
The employees were fired for not following the company security procedures.
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CVS Pharmacy said the safety and well-being of their customers and employees is always their highest priority. They sent us the following statement:
“We have stringent security policies and procedures in place to prohibit actions by employees that would jeopardize their safety and the safety of others. The actions of two employees at our Greenfield store during a recent attempted robbery violated those policies and procedures by initiating a physical confrontation, which led to our decision to separate them from the company.”
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An employment attorney said CVS can fire the two employees since they were not under contract. It’s called at-will employment.
“It means you can be terminated by your employer at any time for any reason at all whether it is a good reason or bad reason or no reason at all,” said Jay Meisenhelder.
Meisenhelder believed these workers probably don’t have a strong case unless they were discriminated against.
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Unbelievable, I understand the policy, CVS is rich enough to swallow the robbery but I don't agree with them firing the clerk and pharmacist because their instinct came through! How many homicides are committed even though the robber got what they came for? 
