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Yet, these are all isolated incidents, 99.9% of the time at kids games, nothing like this happens. If this had happened at one of my kid’s games and they witnessed it, I’d consider it to be a lesson for them on what not to do as adults. The closest we ever came to anything like this was when one of my kids played on a team where the coach was an a-hole as were some of the parents. No brawls but definitely a lack of sportsmanship from some of these adults. We had conversations with our kids throughout the season about some of the a-hole adult behavior. It’s life, we can’t control everything but certainly will steer clear of that group of people and not sign up for such a team again and can talk to our kids about it. No need to ban parents or adults from watching kids sports because of a handful of idiots.
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And what type of message is this sending to kids who are being exposed to this behavior, by spectators at these events? In my opinion, in a civilized society it is unacceptable to have this happen at an event for children. Even one time is too much, and I doubt you or anybody else has a better solution for stopping it.
Easy fix: the very first time a parent gets even a little bit out of line at a game, they are banned from going to games for one year. The second time, it's a lifetime ban.
The message will get out REALLY quick.
Who is going to enforce that?
Do you realize that assault and battery are criminal behavior punishable by jail time?
Prosecute and try.
THAT message will get out relatively quick.
Most humans are thick-headed creatures; only very, very few messages change attitudes of mind REALLY quick.
Do you realize that assault and battery are criminal behavior punishable by jail time?
Prosecute and try.
THAT message will get out relatively quick.
Most humans are thick-headed creatures; only very, very few messages change attitudes of mind REALLY quick.
Either way, illegality is no joke.
Whatever league or rec department is sponsoring the games would enforce the bans. As policy.
And yes, I am all in favor of throwing people in jail, too. For a long time. Again, because these are childrens events/activities. (I would be a lot less harsh if it was an adult softball league fight, for example).
I don't know if anyone remembers this episode, but back at the turn of the millennium a father killed another father when spectating at a youth hockey game. See Father in Killing at Hockey Rink Is Given Sentence of 6 to 10 Years. In that case both the killer and the victim, and their parents and children, had a pattern of violence.
I doubt that violence is new to at least some of the buffoons in Denver.
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Whatever league or rec department is sponsoring the games would enforce the bans. As policy.
And yes, I am all in favor of throwing people in jail, too. For a long time. Again, because these are childrens events/activities. (I would be a lot less harsh if it was an adult softball league fight, for example).
See my note above. These people are probably not new to bad behavior.
It’s still extremely rare when you consider how many games are played across the country every single day.
As I said, one time is too much. It is unacceptable to have this happen in front of children. It's setting a bad example for the kids. It would be better to have no Little League at all, then this.
Second, it's not rare. You are burying your head in the sand if you think it is. I pulled all of those videos off the first two pages of search results. I could have posted endless more, and that is just the tip of the iceberg. As others have posted this has been going on since long before people were video recording it. The status quo is not working.
I can't blame the parents for getting excited about their son's ball game. After all, there were probably a half a dozen pro baseball scouts attending, wanting to get an early look at my amazing kid. So a bad call by the ump could make the difference between an offer from a pro team versus life in the minor leagues.
Whatever league or rec department is sponsoring the games would enforce the bans. As policy.
And yes, I am all in favor of throwing people in jail, too. For a long time. Again, because these are childrens events/activities. (I would be a lot less harsh if it was an adult softball league fight, for example).
I would say that anybody who gets in a fight at a children's event, should automatically be charged with child endangerment.
As I said, one time is too much. It is unacceptable to have this happen in front of children. It's setting a bad example for the kids. It would be better to have no Little League at all, then this.
Second, it's not rare. You are burying your head in the sand if you think it is. I pulled all of those videos off the first two pages of search results. I could have posted endless more, and that is just the tip of the iceberg. As others have posted this has been going on since long before people were video recording it. The status quo is not working.
The probability of fights occurring a children’s sporting events is pretty low. You being able to pull pages of hits up on a search engine doesn’t change that. How many other things should be ban when the probability of an issue is single digits and most likely less than 1%?
I don't know if anyone remembers this episode, but back at the turn of the millennium a father killed another father when spectating at a youth hockey game. See Father in Killing at Hockey Rink Is Given Sentence of 6 to 10 Years. In that case both the killer and the victim, and their parents and children, had a pattern of violence.
I doubt that violence is new to at least some of the buffoons in Denver.
Follow up, to that story. The cycle of violence continues.
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Quinlan Junta, who was accused of a brutal home invasion earlier this year, reportedly died over the weekend while in custody. His father, Thomas Junta, was convicted of manslaughter after fatally injuring a man during a fight at a youth hockey game.
The son of the Reading “hockey dad” convicted in a fatal altercation at a youth hockey game in 2000 died over the weekend. Quinlan Junta was accused of a brutal home invasion earlier this year. His father, Thomas Junta, was convicted of manslaughter after fatally injuring a man during a fight at a youth hockey game.
Yet, these are all isolated incidents, 99.9% of the time at kids games, nothing like this happens. If this had happened at one of my kid’s games and they witnessed it, I’d consider it to be a lesson for them on what not to do as adults. The closest we ever came to anything like this was when one of my kids played on a team where the coach was an a-hole as were some of the parents. No brawls but definitely a lack of sportsmanship from some of these adults. We had conversations with our kids throughout the season about some of the a-hole adult behavior. It’s life, we can’t control everything but certainly will steer clear of that group of people and not sign up for such a team again and can talk to our kids about it. No need to ban parents or adults from watching kids sports because of a handful of idiots.
That is not the way child psychology works. Kids learn behavior by watching what adults do. Witnessing adults behaving this way is not going to benefit the kids in any positive way. Evident by the article I just posted of the kid whose dad beat another dad to death at a youth hockey game. He is now dead himself after committing a violent crime. It's part of a cycle of violence. This has got to stop. Dismissing it as isolated incidents is not helping.
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