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Old 07-08-2019, 11:19 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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Dogs in a group can behave a lot differently than a dog by itself, in a place that's familiar, around familiar people. Street dogs may have a well ordered "society" with others in the vicinity and may not get in situations where they need much aggression. We don't know if this poor man did exactly the wrong thing at the wrong time when confronted by a group of strange dogs. He might have turned to run, the pack was triggered, chased and caught him. He may have panicked, started hitting them which made everything worse.

A close friend of mine had 3 dogs. Two for years, one was a newer rescue. He also owned a large goat that had lived peacefully with the two dogs for years. They roamed his property together most of the time. He even took the dogs, the goat, even a cat hiking. Pile all of them in his tiny car and head for a trail.

One day he was out doing yard work; the dogs and goat were roaming loose along a riverbank. A hour later his oldest dog ran up to him, bloody, obviously freaked out, cringing and crying. He started searching, met the other two dogs, and found the goat dying on the bank with its hind legs broken and partly disemboweled. No way to know for sure, but its possible the newer dog started playing...dodging at the goat which turned and ran. Pack behavior took over, the goat was run down and mutilated...even by dogs that it knew. He put the goat down, kept the oldest dog but had the other two euthanized. He couldn't keep them and knew they probably wouldn't find another home in a rural area with other livestock. They would sit in a shelter kennel for the rest of their lives.

We also don't know whether there was anything else going on with him. Did he actually die from the attack or something else?
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Old 07-09-2019, 02:17 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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A man in Florida was likely killed by a pack of dogs that bit him more than 100 times as he took a shortcut home, authorities said.

Melvin Olds Jr., 45, was found dead before noon Thursday in an animal attack in a wooded area near Lake Placid, according to a Highland County Sheriff's news release. He was last seen alive a few hours earlier.

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-man-f...170040139.html
Golden retrievers being trained for duck duty?
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Old 07-09-2019, 06:13 AM
 
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Florida is notorious for terrible per owners that irresponsibly dump their pets when they no longer can or want to take care of them.
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Old 07-09-2019, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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I have a question for anyone who might shed some light: this kind of thing was caused by stray dogs? I ask because there is a huge , HUGE problem of stray dogs in Puerto Rico, for example (I was born there), and I have never ever seen any case of anyone being killed by a pack of dogs on that Island. There are tons of strays roaming the streets almost everywhere you go in PR, but you rarely see any of them attacking humans. Did this incident involve rabid dogs? What would make a bunch of stray dogs attack a person and bite him so much? Genuine question (I am no expert on dog behavior).
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Stray dogs in a city are a bit different than ferals in the woods. The difference between a stray cat and a feral cat if that makes sense. One doesn't have a home, the other is a wild animal.
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Old 07-09-2019, 08:26 AM
 
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This is a people problem, not a dog problem. Too many people don't spay and neuter their cats and dogs, yet allow them to freely roam. It's very expensive.

It cost us more than $200 to neuter a stray, little kitten we rescued from certain death. All his shots and vaccines cost us another $100 or so. It's outrageous. Dogs cost even more.

Many people can barely afford to take themselves or their children to a doctor. They can't afford to spay/neuter their pets.

Yeah, we can rag on them, insult them and call them all kinds of names, but that doesn't solve this growing problem.

It's time that our local governments stepped in and recognized the need to address this growing dilemma. The money is there. It needs to be better allocated to help citizens in need.
It is free in Florida if the animal is a stray, $80 or so if it is yours. Low income with proof, like receiving gov assistance, is also free.

Other words, regarding Florida, there is no excuse.
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:06 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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This is a people problem, not a dog problem. Too many people don't spay and neuter their cats and dogs, yet allow them to freely roam. It's very expensive.

It cost us more than $200 to neuter a stray, little kitten we rescued from certain death. All his shots and vaccines cost us another $100 or so. It's outrageous. Dogs cost even more.

Many people can barely afford to take themselves or their children to a doctor. They can't afford to spay/neuter their pets.

Yeah, we can rag on them, insult them and call them all kinds of names, but that doesn't solve this growing problem.

It's time that our local governments stepped in and recognized the need to address this growing dilemma. The money is there. It needs to be better allocated to help citizens in need.
Here we go again.

No matter what these obnoxious and extremely dangerous animals do, they are defended and protected. It's never their fault. Though it's their nature, as proven many thousands of times each and every day, it's never their fault.

I have shaken my head for nearly 70 years and will 'til the day I die.
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:08 AM
 
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Some people are morons and just can't be bothered to spay/neuter even if it's free. I was told by someone who works for our local Animal Control that people who bring in unwanted litters of kittens and puppies are offered free spay/neuter certificates. Quite a few are not interested or they take the certificates and never follow through. They'd rather allow their dogs/cats to keep breeding year after year, and for the resulting offspring to be killed. I think spay/neuter should be mandatory until the pet overpopulation is under control. We've taken in 10 cats and several dogs since we moved to TX and have kept some and have been lucky enough to find good homes for others. There are currently many more in our neighborhood and we have a friend who has a large feral colony behind his house he has been spaying/neutering and feeding for several years. Here in the South, it's a huge crisis.
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:15 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Here we go again.

No matter what these obnoxious and extremely dangerous animals do, they are defended and protected. It's never their fault. Though it's their nature, as proven many thousands of times each and every day, it's never their fault.

I have shaken my head for nearly 70 years and will 'til the day I die.
Exactly. While we are solicitous of "man's best friends" human rights must override (I almost said trump) animal rights.
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Dark Side of the Moon
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This is a people problem, not a dog problem. Too many people don't spay and neuter their cats and dogs, yet allow them to freely roam. It's very expensive.

It cost us more than $200 to neuter a stray, little kitten we rescued from certain death. All his shots and vaccines cost us another $100 or so. It's outrageous. Dogs cost even more.

Many people can barely afford to take themselves or their children to a doctor. They can't afford to spay/neuter their pets.

Yeah, we can rag on them, insult them and call them all kinds of names, but that doesn't solve this growing problem.

It's time that our local governments stepped in and recognized the need to address this growing dilemma. The money is there. It needs to be better allocated to help citizens in need.
If you take a stray to the animal shelter, they'll spay/neuter, and you can adopt later for $20, at least that's how our shelter works. If it's a kill shelter, that may not be the case.
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:23 AM
 
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It is a people problem as people are the ones who created the problem. Did the dogs domesticate themselves? Get brought over from the old world? No, people are the ones who are responsible for creating this issue, as the issue with pythons and whatever ever damn thing people brought over.
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