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From that angle, you can't see enough to determine where she was. All you can really see for most of the time is part of his side. The footage doesn't preclude her leaning against him, standing or sitting on the sill, leaning against him or the railing, being entirely held by him--or dangling out the window, for that matter.
I don't need to determine where she was. From the video I can see that she is not leaning against him, not being entirely held by him.
I don't need to determine where she was. From the video I can see that she is not leaning against him, not being entirely held by him.
Where was she then? I have no idea what you think you are seeing. Do you believe she fell out the window right after he lifted her over the rail, and then he stood there for 30 seconds alone?
Where was she then? I have no idea what you think you are seeing. Do you believe she fell out the window right after he lifted her over the rail, and then he stood there for 30 seconds alone?
Look at the railing in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqS_55470Sw starting at 00:54. Looks to me like a child propped up there could easily fall out the window, especially if leaning forward to look out. I'm thinking he probably had her standing on the window ledge, thinking there was glass in front of her. I really do not believe he would have put her over the railing or even on the railing if he knew the window was open.
Also, the railing is wood. It's brown. Someone keeps saying the railing is clearly visible the entire video and I don't see that at all. I don't know if it makes a difference if it's visible, but I'm just saying I don't see it.
I'm saying I have no idea what your opinion is. You said she wasn't leaning against him, and she wasn't being held by him, and she wasn't on the railing, and now I guess you are saying she didn't fall out immediately. Where was she for those 30 seconds?
I'm saying I have no idea what your opinion is. You said she wasn't leaning against him, and she wasn't being held by him, and she wasn't on the railing, and now I guess you are saying she didn't fall out immediately. Where was she for those 30 seconds?
I said she wasn't leaning against him, and that she wasn't perched on the railing. He was holding her, just not against him. She was beyond the railing for those 30 seconds. I watch the video and I see when he first swings her up over, he uses his right hand to brace himself, and about halfway through the video we see again his right rand. My opinion is that he placed her on the windowsill, which he could not have done if the window was closed. That he didn't realize that the window was open seems impossible, but people sometimes don't think rationally, and his actions clearly weren't rational. I think Chloe knew all the time that the window was open, but she trusted her grandfather to keep her safe. A devastating tragedy for the child and her family.
In the video posted above, the commentator who has seen the defense's video states he holds Chloe in front of him but not through the window.
Don't know what video he's seen, if he's seen a different one then we have, but interesting he would make that statement.
That's what I think - she was in front of him but not through the window. I don't understand someone saying she wasn't against him and wasn't on the railing. We can't see that from the video.
Also, in that picture above there is CLEARLY a window ledge that she could have been standing on without being outside the window. The track for the window is beyond that. The grandfather said she went to bang on the window. I think he did think there was a window there. I think he did have her in front of him where she could bang on the window. Except there wasn't a window.
I think the video is useful because it shows the railing the entire time.
I'm not sure if this was your point but I agree in that the railing is a safety measure/barrier, as railings tend to be wherever they may be located. The fact that he lifted the child over the safety barrier towards the danger that the railing was designed to prevent access to is all that needs to be known.....the rest of it is really insignificant details.
If one was driving heavily intoxicated, it's somewhat silly to argue whether the person not using their turn signal caused the accident. The child is dead because the person lifted her over the safety barrier.
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