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Old 11-26-2019, 10:27 AM
 
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At first I did feel sympathy for him, now after that interview, screw him, prosecute and if evidence demonstrates, convict.

He cannot even accept responsibility, blame the cruise line is his way of thinking. Hey genius, you are the one that violated the safety device and put the kid up there, not the cruise line.

 
Old 11-26-2019, 10:33 AM
 
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In an interview, the grandfather said he was color blind. I thought when I heard that, okay you're color blind, but still you can touch to make sure the window was closed and safe before letting your granddaughter "bang" on the glass, which wasn't there.
 
Old 11-26-2019, 10:45 AM
 
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At first I did feel sympathy for him, now after that interview, screw him, prosecute and if evidence demonstrates, convict.

He cannot even accept responsibility, blame the cruise line is his way of thinking. Hey genius, you are the one that violated the safety device and put the kid up there, not the cruise line.
Is this family just on a loop blaming Royal Caribbean because they can't or won't face the fact that the grandfather was careless, he didn't do it on purpose, but he was not thinking and just plain careless. Maybe, the parents are being led by the ambulance chaser who makes it easier for them to think that it is Royal Caribbean's fault, and also the money probably makes them feel a little better, but it will never bring back their child. That is blood money. The truth is that it is the grandfather's fault 100% and he should have just told the truth but maybe he thinks that the money will help the parents forgive him because on some level they know the truth but can't deal with it. Easier to blame the fall guy Royal Caribbean with the deeper pockets.
 
Old 11-26-2019, 10:45 AM
 
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I believe he knew the glass was missing but I don't think he should be prosecuted. If an investigation finds him to be at fault, I think it should be made public and left at that.

I also think someone needs to evaluate his ability to drive or perform other actions where risk is assumed. Whatever story you believe - glass or no glass - he exhibits poor judgment. He should have known better than to put her on a railing, let her bang on glass, lean forward without holding on to her better, etc. He had so many opportunities to stop and rethink what he was doing. Very sad.
The banging on the glass is strange.

At the hocky rink that is expected? They probably have shatter proof faux glass. Why try to do the same thing here - a whole different environment.

I read elsewhere that he refuses a breathalizer?
 
Old 11-26-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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I think in the cases of some of these deaths caused by a loved one, there really is no point in prosecuting. The continued defense by the family irritates me. They need to admit they used bad judgement and quit placing the blame elsewhere.

My husband is red/green colorblind. He uses other parts of his vision that I don't. He actually can discern gradients in texture/color than I can not. He recognizes visual patterns better. I'm not buying grandpa's defense.
 
Old 11-26-2019, 10:56 AM
 
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I read part of an interview where he said he thought she had fallen in front of him.

Is this guy blind?? How do you not notice a kid fall out of a window as you HOLD her. Seriously.
 
Old 11-26-2019, 10:57 AM
 
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To the people who have been saying that it is fairly common and/or easy to walk into a closed glass door, thinking it's open. Okay, I can see that. But how easy is it to just stand in front of a glass door and think it's open? Once you stand there for a moment, you're pretty quick to realize whether it's open or closed.
 
Old 11-26-2019, 11:01 AM
 
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I read part of an interview where he said he thought she had fallen in front of him so he looked down to the floor for her.

Is this guy blind?? How do you not notice a kid fall out of a window as you HOLD her. Seriously.
That part I was totally confused? WHAT?!?!? He said he was looking on the floor for her and then saw her dropping - was he not looking, how do you miss a child from your vision if you were watching her? And, he refused a breathalyzer - why? I thought he didn't drink so what is there to be afraid of?
 
Old 11-26-2019, 11:08 AM
 
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If he wouldn’t do the breathalyzer they should have taken his blood. They have a ship doctor. He is either a moron or has dementia which I doubt since he still has a good job.
 
Old 11-26-2019, 11:23 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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I think in the cases of some of these deaths caused by a loved one, there really is no point in prosecuting. The continued defense by the family irritates me. They need to admit they used bad judgement and quit placing the blame elsewhere.

My husband is red/green colorblind. He uses other parts of his vision that I don't. He actually can discern gradients in texture/color than I can not. He recognizes visual patterns better. I'm not buying grandpa's defense.
Yeah, I kind of wonder about that defense. Is there any type of color blindness that prevents you from being able to tell there are two different shades next to each other, even if you can't tell what shades they are?
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