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Old 07-25-2019, 07:45 AM
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It doesn't appear the conveyor belt is actually inherently dangerous - that is, there is no where he will be dropped, or crushed, etc.

Looks to me from watching the kind of unclear video that he was just climbing around on suitcases for all he's worth, and somehow, during all this climbing around, broke his hand.

This little one needs a leash. I wonder if airports could strongly encourage parents traveling with very adventuresome toddlers to use them - maybe even provide loaners the way you can rent a cart?

This one is fearless and unaware of potentially dangerous situations.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/us/to...rnd/index.html
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:09 AM
 
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Children dont need leashes. they need supervision. Mom is at fault here.
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:10 AM
 
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How much will she sue for?
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:13 AM
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Children dont need leashes. they need supervision. Mom is at fault here.
Some children need leashes. Some children, if you divert your attention away from them for 10 seconds, to do a necessary task of obtaining a boarding pass for a flight, will dart off and jump on a conveyor belt and climb around all over the luggage, showing no apparent fear whatsoever.

Most children won't do that. Most toddlers will stand there next to Mom while she performs a quick task.
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:18 AM
 
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Ohmigosh, that is scary! It shouldn't take 5 min. to shut it down!

Maybe a kiddo tether would have helped, maybe he has medical issues that results in decreased impulse control, or maybe this was a fluke behavior on his part. I'm not going to judge, but I'm glad he is ok and that TSA was as helpful as they could be.
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:21 AM
 
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Some children need leashes. Some children, if you divert your attention away from them for 10 seconds, to do a necessary task of obtaining a boarding pass for a flight, will dart off and jump on a conveyor belt and climb around all over the luggage, showing no apparent fear whatsoever.

Most children won't do that. Most toddlers will stand there next to Mom while she performs a quick task.
if the only way to keep a kid safe is to put them on a leash like an animal then perhaps they need to reevaluate how they do things. its possible to use that machine 1 handed. you pick him up or you hold his hand and dont let go.
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:28 AM
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if the only way to keep a kid safe is to put them on a leash like an animal then perhaps they need to reevaluate how they do things. its possible to use that machine 1 handed. you pick him up or you hold his hand and dont let go.
Or, maybe use one of those cute backpack leashes? Or a "hand holder" where there is a bracelet around the child's wrist and a bracelet around the parent's wrist, and a 3 or 4 foot lead?

It's impractical to physically hang on to another person, and extremely frustrating. Despite the fact that a very few people in the public will frown on a child on a lead, I have personally never seen a child on a leash who didn't need to be on one.

And, the child will grow out of it, having survived a having very very adventuresome spirit and zero god given fear.
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:36 AM
 
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Or, maybe use one of those cute backpack leashes? Or a "hand holder" where there is a bracelet around the child's wrist and a bracelet around the parent's wrist, and a 3 or 4 foot lead?

It's impractical to physically hang on to another person, and extremely frustrating. Despite the fact that a very few people in the public will frown on a child on a lead, I have personally never seen a child on a leash who didn't need to be on one.

And, the child will grow out of it, having survived a having very very adventuresome spirit and zero god given fear.
parenting.

besides...mom every heard of a stroller????

ETA...a leash doesnt teach a very very necessary lesson. That youre to stay next to mom and hold her hand/belt loop/ backpack. kids will wander if not controlled and teaching them to stay next to you is a better lesson than teaching them to wander 4 or 5 feet away with a leash. Maybe she uses a leash and didnt have it in the airport and her kid has always just walked as far as his leash allowed with no policing and this time just wandered and wandered.
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:41 AM
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parenting.

besides...mom every heard of a stroller????

ETA...a leash doesnt teach a very very necessary lesson. That youre to stay next to mom and hold her hand/belt loop/ backpack. kids will wander if not controlled and teaching them to stay next to you is a better lesson than teaching them to wander 4 or 5 feet away with a leash. Maybe she uses a leash and didnt have it in the airport and her kid has always just walked as far as his leash allowed with no policing and this time just wandered and wandered.
Did you watch the video?

I personally don't believe I've ever seen a child as fearless as that. As he's being sucked back into the hole, he's not terribly concerned.

Other kids would be screaming.

A lot of people in the public have a lot of "shoulds" for parents, and shame parents for doing what's needed to keep a child safe, and what's needed for this one is a leash.

And since he's now going to have to sit for a very long time, being in a stroller right now wouldn't be the best option.

I do have to ask. Did you provide primary care for adventuresome toddlers?

Because I had one, not like this one - my child at least had fear - and I wish I'd have used a hand holder leash when he was that age.
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:49 AM
 
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parenting.

besides...mom every heard of a stroller????

ETA...a leash doesnt teach a very very necessary lesson. That youre to stay next to mom and hold her hand/belt loop/ backpack. kids will wander if not controlled and teaching them to stay next to you is a better lesson than teaching them to wander 4 or 5 feet away with a leash. Maybe she uses a leash and didnt have it in the airport and her kid has always just walked as far as his leash allowed with no policing and this time just wandered and wandered.

Wouldn't she be checking a stroller? I don't know that I've ever seen a stroller on a plane so I assume they are checked. But I really don't know. But it seems like something you'd check.

Honestly, on this one, I am not so quick to blame the mom. I hate those "force the passenger to print the boarding pass" kiosks. I hate them because they are annoying, but I can see where trying to print a boarding pass, those stupid luggage tags and put them on your bags, all while there is chaos going around you would be really hard to do while holding a toddler's hand. I have a heard enough time trying to use the things and keep an eye on my bags (which seem to always have to be behind me because the kiosks are so crowded together).

Plus, one might think, "yeah, my kid might take off a few feet from me in the few seconds I look down but I will catch him" but who thinks, "yeah, in the ten seconds I look down at the check-in screen my kid will take off, somehow get behind a counter that passengers shouldn't be able to get behind, and get on a conveyor belt." It's kind of a freak thing that happened.
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