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Old 08-02-2019, 05:52 AM
 
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Wouldn't bother me. In fact, the body is doing good to the extent it may save a soldier's life.
I think he was hoping that it would be used to help find a cure for Alzheimer’s since that’s what she died of. It would’ve given her life and death a meaning that being used as a blast test practice dummy does not. There’s a lack of dignity in this I would have a hard time with.
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Old 08-02-2019, 05:58 AM
 
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From what I gather, the part of the body (i.e. the brain) that was the basis for the donation still made its way to its intended location. There was no "need" for the rest of the body by the research institute, but the DOD did have a need.
You’re missing the part where needed had nothing to do with it. They were selling donated bodies for profit to the military for $6000 apiece. It was a scam it wasn’t done with some altruistic hope of saving soldiers lives.
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Old 08-02-2019, 05:59 AM
 
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If you donate a car to a charity, do you think they fix up the car and present the keys to a needy person who needs transportation? Of course not. It gets hauled to a crusher, and the charity gets the $100
Car is not the same as your mother. body. Are you really saying they should be treated the same under the law?
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Old 08-02-2019, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Interesting- I'd looked at donation when DH was terminally ill and the places that accepted donations specified that they couldn't accept "emaciated" bodies, presumably because they weren't good for research. His wouldn't have been accepted.

I agree that if there's a possibility that the military was going to use the body for blast testing it should be disclosed- I personally wouldn't care and I bet DH would have found it funny.

There's a "body farm" at a university in TN where they leave donated bodies out under various conditions to watch how they change, so that coroners can better determine time of death from remains that have been in place for days, weeks or years. It's all good, as long as you know what's going to be done with the body.
I agree. As long as the person signs the papers before they die on what their body will be used for, and as long as the family understands this, then it's all good.

The way I look at it, no matter how it is used, the dead body is being used for the betterment and education of the living and their future ancestors.
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Old 08-02-2019, 08:04 AM
 
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Blast testing is science. I don't see the problem.
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Old 08-02-2019, 08:12 AM
 
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Blast testing is science. I don't see the problem.
She died from Alzheimer’s. He wanted her suffering and death to mean something by having her body be used to help find a cure so that others in the future don’t suffer with the disease she had. He was informed by the company that he could choose to have his donation used for certain things and NOT to have her body used for certain things. He checked a box choosing NOT to have her body used for military purposes. He and the company rep signed it. Then they turned around and sold her body to the military for $6,000.00 violating the agreement they signed. . This is about money and it was a scam. I don’t get why anyone would think this is ok.
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Old 08-02-2019, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Between West Chester and Chester, PA
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This whole story would make for a pretty good death metal song. I hope Gatecreeper picks up on it since they're from AZ.
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Old 08-02-2019, 09:26 AM
 
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They were selling donated bodies for profit to the military for $6000 apiece. It was a scam it wasn’t done with some altruistic hope of saving soldiers lives.
That's what I saw here.

Body donated for free...and then they sell it for profit?
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Old 08-02-2019, 09:39 AM
 
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I personally wouldn't mind donating my body for something like this.

But, the point here is that this should be a personal choice. There's nothing wrong if someone doesn't want their body or the bodies of loved ones to be used in such testing. There should be full disclosure, which wasn't done here.
Exactly. What they did was illegal and deceitful. Thankfully, this center at least, is long since out of business.

The donation center is no longer operating. It was raided in 2014 by the FBI following accusations that it was selling donated bodies for profit. It was during the 2014 raid the agents made several horrific discoveries, including a woman's head sewn onto a male torso, dismembered limbs and heads strewn about and a cooler filled with male genitalia.


BRC's owner, Stephen Gore, pleaded guilty to illegal control of an enterprise in 2015 and is currently serving probation.
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Old 08-02-2019, 09:40 AM
 
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Blast testing is science. I don't see the problem.
Clearly you have not read the story.
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