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The five people who voted for this are stupid beyond belief. They need to take out the problem by the root: poverty. I expected better of a highly liberal state and city.
Prison will NOT rehabilitate them. It will only give them undeserved mental suffering and sink them deeper into poverty. If that's how it's gonna be, I'd rather be dead than poor.
I very much doubt that the police will haul the homeless off to jail. They will wake them up and tell them to move along. Wake them up enough times over several days and they will go and find someplace else to sleep.
The five people who voted for this are stupid beyond belief. They need to take out the problem by the root: poverty. I expected better of a highly liberal state and city.
Prison will NOT rehabilitate them. It will only give them undeserved mental suffering and sink them deeper into poverty. If that's how it's gonna be, I'd rather be dead than poor.
HA! You think NV is liberal? It may be called 'Sin city' alluding to a liberal stance but we are very much a conservative city/state.
What planet do you live on? A full citizen of the USA certainly has every right to be a vagrant. A vagrant lifestyle isn't unconstitutional.
Some of the problem is poverty. Albeit a small portion. Either the rents need to be controlled or wages must come up or both.
Not even "full citizen". The constitution applies fully and equally to every "person" who is physically present within the lawful jurisdiction claimed by the USA.
The constitution does not endow specific rights, it grants them all, except those which it specifically abridges with the consent of the Supreme Court. It is settled law that a person has a right to peaceably occupy space..
They’ll all be coming out to CA where homeless can do anything with no repercussions. Anything that’s suggested that involves work or commitment to a program or educational in any way is deemed cruel and discriminatory.
I agree, a lot of them are adults who made the choice to do drugs and not work. Don’t have much sympathy there, since we are expected to pay through increased taxes or panhandling for their choice of lifestyle. If they have addiction issues, get them help. If they are mentally ill, get them help. Letting people sleep rough and use the sidewalks as a toilet is not helping anyone. Some type of tough love program would be a huge benefit.
Just building them a house and then what? They need a program for the long haul.
Yes agree. Housing first is a great concept but it’s not reality. The houses are trashed and not kept up and the addicts just use drugs in the homes.
They can send them to Portland on a $39 flight.
Plenty of space on freeway frontage / traffic circles / city parks.
No hassles from police.
No air conditioning required. / lots of friends and dogs to associate with.
Can share RVs parked at city parks or try to get a spot at Dignity Village (homeless compound / self managed, so they are pretty picky about which homeless can stay there).
Be careful about sending them to San Antonio. They have a "back-to-W-O-R-K " program.
But you are safe in Portland.
Seattle is a coffee city, so the homeless are caffeinated and violent (will rob you).
Portland is a beer city, mellow behaviors. Lots of bridges to live under when raining. River View, no property taxes!
Please don't give Portland any ideas. Yes, I know you're being sarcastic. Unfortunately Metro grunts probably lurk on sites like this all the time and they'll probably take your suggestions to heart.
What planet do you live on? A full citizen of the USA certainly has every right to be a vagrant. A vagrant lifestyle isn't unconstitutional.
Some of the problem is poverty. Albeit a small portion. Either the rents need to be controlled or wages must come up or both.
Exactly. I think I have fingered out a solution. We should have a law that prohibits landlords from renting to anyone who doesn't have a verifiable income 3 x higher then the monthly rent. No one in this country should ever pay more then 1/3 of their income for rent. Personally I would make it 1/4, but 1/3 is the standard, so I would go with that. This would force landlords to lower their rents to prices most people can afford, or their rental units would sit empty. That would be their choice, but I'm pretty sure most all landlords would rent out their property for a price people can afford, rather then letting them sit empty.
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Exactly. I think I have fingered out a solution. We should have a law that prohibits landlords from renting to anyone who doesn't have a verifiable income 3 x higher then the monthly rent. No one in this country should ever pay more then 1/3 of their income for rent. Personally I would make it 1/4, but 1/3 is the standard, so I would go with that. This would force landlords to lower their rents to prices most people can afford, or their rental units would sit empty. That would be their choice, but I'm pretty sure most all landlords would rent out their property for a price people can afford, rather then letting them sit empty.
How would you deal with rentals to college students, who have no income, and retirees, who have no income but are living on their lifetime savings?
This would cause an absolute nightmare for people who are offering to subsidize a family member for awhile while they get their feet under them, and are willing to pay for someone's rent for 6 months or so.
In my observation, landlords usually can't lower their rents to what the poorest can afford - rather, they'd just sell the property instead of rent it at a loss and have what is probably a more difficult than average tenant to deal with for a low rent.
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