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Old 02-29-2020, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Bellevue WA
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In case you didn't know, animals can get and give Covid-19 to other animals within their species, and to other animals outside their species. Animals can get Covid-19 from humans, and they can also give it to humans.
Humans can get Covid-19 from other humans or from animals, and they can pass that on to other humans.
Think it's going away anytime soon?
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Old 03-01-2020, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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In case you didn't know, animals can get and give Covid-19 to other animals within their species, and to other animals outside their species. Animals can get Covid-19 from humans, and they can also give it to humans.
Humans can get Covid-19 from other humans or from animals, and they can pass that on to other humans.
Think it's going away anytime soon?
COVID-19 originally came from an animal. The experts are not sure exactly which one yet. It is adapted to humans, and no one knows yet whether it can be passed from humans to another species. Supposedly one dog has tested positive, but it is possible that the "weakly positive test" actually picked up a canine coronavirus species. Until it is confirmed that the test picked up COVID-19 it is best not to present it as an established fact that dogs - or other animals - can get COVID-19 from humans.

Rather than making posts like this one, which can start rumors, how about waiting until what you say is confirmed and also cite your source?
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Old 03-01-2020, 01:44 AM
 
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COVID-19 originally came from an animal. The experts are not sure exactly which one yet. It is adapted to humans, and no one knows yet whether it can be passed from humans to another species. Supposedly one dog has tested positive, but it is possible that the "weakly positive test" actually picked up a canine coronavirus species. Until it is confirmed that the test picked up COVID-19 it is best not to present it as an established fact that dogs - or other animals - can get COVID-19 from humans.

Rather than making posts like this one, which can start rumors, how about waiting until what you say is confirmed and also cite your source?
There is speculation that an animal I never heard of called a pangolin may have been the cause. It is, surprisingly to me, the most illegally trafficked animal in the world (for food). One of the animals available at the meat market in China where they think it began.

https://www.google.com/search?q=most...PlDp6mXCTnn9AM

I agree about rumor mongering, it would disgust me if dogs were harmed or killed because people are paranoid about this virus.
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Old 03-01-2020, 02:32 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Rather than making posts like this one, which can start rumors, how about waiting until what you say is confirmed and also cite your source?
Au contraire.....Many, if not most, infectious agents increase their own chances of survival by being able to infect alternate host species which can serve as a reservoir helping to spread themselves to humans. Cf- swine flu & avian flu; Malaria, etc etc


It may help if people keep on the lookout for sick pets-- Reports could prove helpful to officials.


BTW-- HIV probably started in monkeys. I know I've cut way down on monkey meat in my diet over the last 35 yrs-- but it hasn't helped my cholesterol level any.
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Old 03-01-2020, 04:01 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Actually they are saying it's NOT from an animal, but from a lab experiment gone wrong..
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Old 03-01-2020, 04:07 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Actually they are saying it's NOT from an animal, but from a lab experiment gone wrong..
Who's "they" ?
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Old 03-01-2020, 04:40 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Au contraire.....Many, if not most, infectious agents increase their own chances of survival by being able to infect alternate host species which can serve as a reservoir helping to spread themselves to humans. Cf- swine flu & avian flu; Malaria, etc etc


It may help if people keep on the lookout for sick pets-- Reports could prove helpful to officials.


BTW-- HIV probably started in monkeys. I know I've cut way down on monkey meat in my diet over the last 35 yrs-- but it hasn't helped my cholesterol level any.
I would just like to see the virus itself identified in another species rather than just the results of a test that may not be specific enough to differentiate between a canine coronavirus and COVID-19.

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Actually they are saying it's NOT from an animal, but from a lab experiment gone wrong..
There is no evidence of that.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...in-coronavirus
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Old 03-01-2020, 05:41 AM
 
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I would just like to see the virus itself identified in another species rather than just the results of a test that may not be specific enough to differentiate between a canine coronavirus and COVID-19.



There is no evidence of that.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...in-coronavirus
The pet dog - in HK has the infected hospitalized pet owner and the dog’s swabs from the nose and the mouth, but not a fecal sample were mildly positive
The supposition is that it could be just a virus contamination from the owner- they will inform the public otherwise: the dog is quarantined in an empty animal shelter and doing well!

It would be nice if everyone check their sources: for those who don’t read- Suzie produced a very reliable source where 27 scientists outside of China say that the virus looks “nature made”

On the other hand twice already the Chinese are hinting that a source of infection might come not from China based on hyplotypes of the many samples of virus from different locations

I am waiting for a peer reviewed responses (they kind of say it might be from the US, however the Chinese themselves denounced the conspiracy theory that the US outbreak of e- cigarettes vaping associated lung damage outbreak last year has anything to do with the COVID-19. On the CT scans damage looks different to me and the CT scans actually quite reliable in serious COVID cases- more so then testing)
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Old 03-01-2020, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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Au contraire.....Many, if not most, infectious agents increase their own chances of survival by being able to infect alternate host species which can serve as a reservoir helping to spread themselves to humans. Cf- swine flu & avian flu; Malaria, etc etc
Everybody agrees that Covid is zoonotic. But nobody until this thread has suggested that it can then jump back to an animal which acts as a reservoir for it to go back and forth with humans. Yes, that would be advantageous for the organism to have that super-power but evolution is not teleological, it is random. Someone has to demonstrate that that indeed does happen.
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Old 03-01-2020, 02:44 PM
 
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It is zootonic in a sense it adapted to infect a human from who ever ate it. however, it is not zootonic in a sense a person can catch it from just being in the presence of it, from what I gather.

Last thing we need is for people not to understand this no matter how it really is, and go on some absurd mass killing spree because humans are well, like that.
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