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Old 08-09-2021, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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They rarely got the wrong people, probably were more efficient and more effective than our current system.
I would never convict someone on this, if they brought the case in front of me as a juror it would be nullification time.
Hope you and I never end up on the same jury for I would convict them. I have no leniency for those who take the law into their own hands, no patience for those who believe in honor killings. The jury would be hopelessly deadlock.

FORTUNATELY for us 12, I probably will never end up on a jury for I know too much and to tell me to disregard all I know and just accept what the court says essentially violates my ethics for it ignores what I am trained to be.
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Old 08-09-2021, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Florida
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https://www.fox13news.com/news/man-g...source=twitter

A man happened to get jailed at the same location where his sister's child abuser was being held. He beat him to death after the child abuser (seemingly gleefully) told him various details of the abuse. He gets 25 years for the murder.

They should have given him a Medal and suspended his sentence.

Why on Earth is he apologizing to the Family of a Degenerate???



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Old 08-09-2021, 08:20 PM
 
Location: MD
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Hmmmm, interesting tactical question.

By nature, I a not one to take the law into my own hands. I am the one with the firepower, afterall (so to speak); so I think the world would be happy that I am like that.

But in jail, as an ex cop, there is a big bullseye on ME. So would taking out what prison populations see as lower than scum earn me some points? I don't know but at the very least.........

.........given the environment, perhaps we can't view this situation as we might in the non criminal world.

There are definitely some interesting prisoner dynamics in the US incarceration system. I learned quite a bit from these gruesome testimonies:

https://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/voices.html (WARNING: graphic details of abuse)

Your guess is probably correct, based on the 6th testimony there, the one by "L.V."
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Old 08-10-2021, 06:26 AM
 
Location: North Dakota
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I'm glad the child rapist was beaten to death. Unfortunately he may have wanted it to happen which is why he egged on his victim's brother.
What the hell did I just read here?
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Old 08-10-2021, 07:25 AM
 
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Not that I approve, but I get it.
He asked to be moved to another cell for this reason, and the request was denied. He tried the non-violent way. In light of that, I think I do approve.
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Old 08-10-2021, 07:29 AM
 
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25 years is about right. Unless you want everyone taking the law into their own hands, which would be catastrophic, the law is the law.
He didn't take the law into his own hands. The killing wasn't punishment for the rape. He did it to make the abuse stop. And it was the only way to do it since the jailors were happy to let it continue.
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Old 08-10-2021, 07:43 AM
 
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They rarely got the wrong people, probably were more efficient and more effective than our current system.
I would never convict someone on this, if they brought the case in front of me as a juror it would be nullification time.
Hmmmm...sorry we hanged your brother by mistake, but at least it didn't cost any of our tax dollars!

Sorry, guy you just made the dumbest comment I've heard on CDF in years.
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Old 08-10-2021, 08:48 AM
 
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Hope you and I never end up on the same jury for I would convict them. I have no leniency for those who take the law into their own hands, no patience for those who believe in honor killings. The jury would be hopelessly deadlock.

FORTUNATELY for us 12, I probably will never end up on a jury for I know too much and to tell me to disregard all I know and just accept what the court says essentially violates my ethics for it ignores what I am trained to be.

That's good, so you won't be on there but I will be.
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Old 08-10-2021, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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That's good, so you won't be on there but I will be.
Fair enough, I suppose but consider, just as some might say that judges shouldn't legislate from the bench, perhaps others should not go in with the intention to do so from the jury box.
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Old 08-10-2021, 02:39 PM
 
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Imagine the judge is sitting there and the defendant takes the stand and says, "well your honor I started stabbing him and he tried to fight me off but he didn't say no so I took that as consent."
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