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Old 09-03-2021, 10:09 PM
 
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You are right.
We are here just thinking that the husband is not browsing the internet to read the strangers’ comments.
Your point is taken.
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Hazel wasn’t a Karen. Hazel was loud but kind and tolerant. A better example would be Mrs. Kravitz from Bewitched.
Yes— the SECOND Mrs. Kravitz. Sandra Gould played her mean. Alice Pearce played Mrs. Kravitz as befuddled and alarmed.
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Old 09-04-2021, 03:37 AM
 
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Yes— the SECOND Mrs. Kravitz. Sandra Gould played her mean. Alice Pearce played Mrs. Kravitz as befuddled and alarmed.
Funny in Googling their pics, I don't remember Alice Pearce. It seems she died of cancer after the first season. It was Sandra Gould's rendition that I remember and I was thinking about. She's the busybody to end all busybodies, and called the police on the Stevens all the time.
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Old 09-04-2021, 06:40 AM
 
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The ME's ruling that this was an accidental death, along with circumstances that support that, is the information that changes everything. Why is anyone still trying to make the husband into a murderer?
I haven't seen the story, but since I'm interested in 'detective stuff,' did they happen to indicate why there was such a gap in the time the husband reported? did they go their separate ways for the day .... with plans to meet up later?
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Old 09-04-2021, 07:25 AM
 
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Or calling someone Sheniqua or Tyrone.

I honestly have never heard of anyone being called that, except for recently, on this forum.
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Old 09-04-2021, 08:23 AM
 
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I haven't seen the story, but since I'm interested in 'detective stuff,' did they happen to indicate why there was such a gap in the time the husband reported? did they go their separate ways for the day .... with plans to meet up later?
Valid question.
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Old 09-04-2021, 11:49 AM
 
Location: equator
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Except no one has named their baby girl Karen for 50 years lol.

Although, Hazel made a comeback, making some of us wince as we recall a loud, fat obnoxious TV maid, so anything is possible!
I was going to object but realized my niece named Karen just turned 50, lol. I remember my sister saying she wanted an "ordinary" name a kid would never get teased about, hah.
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Old 09-04-2021, 12:18 PM
 
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I haven't seen the story, but since I'm interested in 'detective stuff,' did they happen to indicate why there was such a gap in the time the husband reported? did they go their separate ways for the day .... with plans to meet up later?
Or was he taking a long nap?
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Old 09-04-2021, 01:03 PM
 
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Or was he taking a long nap?
What still bugs me about this is that she and her dearly beloved dog may have suffered for a long time, maybe even for hours, in the water, struggling to survive, and there was no security detail patroling/watching danger zones, near dangerous water. There was no on-site security officer, that spouse could have called to go and search for her and the dog there, on that large property. I hope the owner now hires on-site on-call security to do detail, near the dangerous river, after this. Also, spouse, being an ex-deputy sheriff, should have at least phoned family/friends, saying he was worried, with back-up proof that he phoned them. After all, we will never know if he or someone he hired, held her head under the water and somehow drowned the dog too and had a Double Indemnity insurance policy.

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Old 09-04-2021, 01:17 PM
 
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You're assuming the husband WOULD have called "on-site on-call security" if that had been available. I haven't read anything to indicate that the husband was alarmed or even aware of her absence until he reported it at 8:00 p.m. Hiring someone to patrol potentially "dangerous water" at an AirBnB doesn't seem necessary, desirable, or feasible to me...
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Old 09-04-2021, 03:44 PM
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What still bugs me about this is that she and her dearly beloved dog may have suffered for a long time, maybe even for hours, in the water, struggling to survive, and there was no security detail patroling/watching danger zones, near dangerous water. There was no on-site security officer, that spouse could have called to go and search for her and the dog there, on that large property. I hope the owner now hires on-site on-call security to do detail, near the dangerous river, after this. Also, spouse, being an ex-deputy sheriff, should have at least phoned family/friends, saying he was worried, with back-up proof that he phoned them. After all, we will never know if he or someone he hired, held her head under the water and somehow drowned the dog too and had a Double Indemnity insurance policy.



I would imagine that she drowned rather quickly after she was pulled under by the current. This is the country. It's not practical to have someone patrol or watch every body of water, hill, embankment, field, hole, mountain, cliff, crevice, cave, and other topographical feature where someone could get hurt. However, the AirBnB owner who advertised the river as a great place to have a swim was out of his mind. He should have had appropriate warnings at the residence and along the river that the river's currents were treacherous, that swimming unsupervised was dangerous, and that pets should be kept leashed in that area. I would imagine he's going to be the recipient of a rather large lawsuit.
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