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Old 01-28-2022, 09:19 AM
 
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It always makes me wonder why people sit so long on death row...26 years? Why bother executing someone for something they did when they were 18? If someone is going to be executed it should happen within a few a years

Also i noticed an article below refers to the man as 'disabled'. I don't work with disabled people nor am i a mental health professional but regardless of his disability he seems like a bad guy. Perhaps he had a low IQ or learning/mental issues that should have been addressed but plenty of people with those issues dont shoot people and then go to a party to brag about it. If anything people that DO have those issues wouldnt be capable of getting a gun, having friends to go to parties with or even have the mental capacity to think of killing someone. I feel like calling him 'disabled' was perhaps the wrong word to use.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/4558125...ama-execution/

https://nypost.com/2022/01/27/alabam...-court-ruling/
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Old 01-28-2022, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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All capital punishment cases are automatically appealed. So a case wends it’s way through the court system. I think it best to have these cases looked at thoroughly before executing. And I also think that years on death row is a terrible part of the punishment.
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Old 01-28-2022, 09:33 AM
 
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Also I've heard of worse crimes than one man shooting/killing another man where the person simply got life in prison. I'm not saying this crime isn't deplorable...but the death penalty should maybe be reserved for people who have killed multiple people, any sort of violence towards children, torturing then killing people. This man shot and killed a man 26 years ago...awful but it happens everyday!
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Old 01-28-2022, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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It always makes me wonder why people sit so long on death row...26 years? Why bother executing someone for something they did when they were 18? If someone is going to be executed it should happen within a few a years

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Be careful what you wish for.


There is a line of thought that people on a jury are willing to condemn someone to death because they know there is plenty of time to catch their mistake if such were to happen.


But what might happen if from trial to needle was a quick process? Would the common person on a jury be so willing then to say yes to death?
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Old 01-28-2022, 10:25 AM
 
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Also I've heard of worse crimes than one man shooting/killing another man where the person simply got life in prison. I'm not saying this crime isn't deplorable...but the death penalty should maybe be reserved for people who have killed multiple people, any sort of violence towards children, torturing then killing people. This man shot and killed a man 26 years ago...awful but it happens everyday!
This is my problem with it. It seems to be applied very randomly, and too often money or standing in society has more to do with who does/doesn't get death penalty than the actual crime.
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Old 01-28-2022, 04:05 PM
 
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This is my problem with it. It seems to be applied very randomly, and too often money or standing in society has more to do with who does/doesn't get death penalty than the actual crime.
This! If it was equal across the board, ok, but it's not. Minorities and the poor are sent to the chair far more often.
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Old 01-29-2022, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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It seems to me that we often hear of evidence that is uncovered a decade later that proves the convicted person is innocent.

Consider the Loyd Jowers Trial.

Rev. MLK Jr was shot, immediately the cops caught a guy they said did it. A quick kangaroo trial later and James Earl Ray was convicted. But it took 25 years for the real guilty parties to finally be convicted at trial.

In the mean time ask anyone you know 'Who killed MLK?" They will likely tell you James Earl Ray did it. Even though now we know better.
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Old 01-29-2022, 11:58 AM
 
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It seems to me that we often hear of evidence that is uncovered a decade later that proves the convicted person is innocent.

Consider the Loyd Jowers Trial.

Rev. MLK Jr was shot, immediately the cops caught a guy they said did it. A quick kangaroo trial later and James Earl Ray was convicted. But it took 25 years for the real guilty parties to finally be convicted at trial.

In the mean time ask anyone you know 'Who killed MLK?" They will likely tell you James Earl Ray did it. Even though now we know better.
As of February last year, there have been 185 death row inmates exonerated through DNA evidence. God only knows how many innocent people over the years were put to death before DNA analysis was possible.

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/dp...n-total-to-185
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Old 01-29-2022, 12:13 PM
 
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All capital punishment cases are automatically appealed. So a case wends it’s way through the court system. I think it best to have these cases looked at thoroughly before executing. And I also think that years on death row is a terrible part of the punishment.
How much do you want to bet that most, if not all would prefer that to being executed within a year or so?

I have no issue with thorough examination of death penalty cases to insure as best as possible no innocent person is put to death.
However it didn't take 26 years to figure out his guilt or innocence.

The legal system has been perverted by greedy lawyers who use this among other things to delay justice and make themselves wealthy in the mean time.
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Old 01-29-2022, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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... However it didn't take 26 years to figure out his guilt or innocence.
In the case of James Earl Ray, it did.

And because his trial was so public, our entire society is still convinced to this day that he is guilty.
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