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I was even going to mention the boomers, because I'm one and I have one boomer friend who run large video game company, another who has written widely-used C++ and other manuals, etc. I've commented elsewhere about how irritated I get when people assume seniors can't use or understand technology.
Also, the article points out that the execs involved no longer work for the company, so hopefully, the current management isn't so bigoted.
It makes you wonder where those two Cornholios went after their stint at IBM.
Other executives at other companies are not such digital dinos as to leave a digital footprint, if or when they engage in ageism. The irony of this incident would be hilarious if it didn't involve the massive disruption of people's lives.
I agree that the irony is off the charts on this one. That is for sure.
Other companies are guilty of the same thing - Ageism is alive and well in Corporate America.
It's pretty common.
I have a relative that was high up in HR for a major company, this is widespread and eventually happened to them.
I think that the severance packages are typically done to avoid lawsuits over stuff like this. Last big layoff where I work definitely had a lot of older workers in it but they got nice deals and many just rolled into retirement.
I'll be cool with this if I'm a little older if they want to give me a years pay to help me retire a bit earlier. *shrug*
I was even going to mention the boomers, because I'm one and I have one boomer friend who run large video game company, another who has written widely-used C++ and other manuals, etc. I've commented elsewhere about how irritated I get when people assume seniors can't use or understand technology.
Also, the article points out that the execs involved no longer work for the company, so hopefully, the current management isn't so bigoted.
It wasn't those 2 that fired the 20,000 people over 40, that was a company decision.
Other companies are guilty of the same thing - Ageism is alive and well in Corporate America.
That was my fear as I approached 60 years of age when I was working, plus being on the higher side of salary to my peers.
I held my breathe the last 2 years prior to being 65 and knowing that I was going to retire and yes, I was lucky that I was able to get out on my terms.
It wasn't those 2 that fired the 20,000 people over 40, that was a company decision.
Right. Totally agree. Those 2 were the fall guys.
This has been happening for at least 20 years, if not more. People commented on the article saying they were let go too at a certain age.
One of my friends has a hub who lost his high paying job in Philly in his 40's. I'm 8 years older than her, she's getting near 50. I'm not sure how much older her hub is than her. This happened about 4 years ago.
She had a great job with Spencers, so he stayed home to do the "Mr. Mom" thing with the kids while she busted her butt. They eventually lost their house when it happened to her 2 years ago. She had stellar reviews at the company, one day they offered her a severance package. So that's 2 people I know let go when they reach mid 40's.
One of their kids had high medical bills. That could have played a part too I guess. They ended up qualifying for NJ family care for the medical.
It's time heads start rolling. At some point, those in charge of letting people go 10 years ago have also lost their jobs, people will start singing hopefully with IBM in the news.
I wonder how he feels about the types of ads he's probably been getting in the mail ?
Hearing aids, AARP magazine subscriptions, ads for cemetery plots. Soon the only image he'll see in the mirror will be that of the grim reaper telling him, " I'm ready when you are."
The grim reaper would never say that. The grim reaper would say "You're coming with me."
I'd like to know how many of the executives were actually involved in conversations like this and how many of them received these emails.
I find it very hard to believe that they were all in on this type of banter - "Dated maternal workforce", "Dinobabies" The emails do not sound like something written by a seasoned professional.
Was this chatter between a handful of executives or between them all as a larger group? I feel like we're missing context here.
I agree, more info needed. I'd also like to know how "executives" is defined and by whom. Who is actually being described as authoring that correspondence? Sounds like they must be pretty young "executives". And who are the real execs vs. the Vice President of Supplies Purchasing, and the Deputy Lunchroom Supervisor, and their ilk?
Someone posted a photo of the Board of Directors. I wonder what their opinions are of this. Though I suppose the BOD would have had to approve the firing of most people over 40, roughly 60% of the IBM workforce, as posted earlier? Hard to believe they'd approve that. They probably didn't see these memos, though.
What happened to the days when seniority and experience counted for something? Dead and gone, I guess.
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