Pagan and Hells Angels Motorcycle Gangs Operating In NYC To Expand Their Business
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Through the end of last century I think law enforcement had a chance to eliminate or reduce these gangs operations signifigantly. But by they late 90s motorcycles became a fad for many that normally wouldn't have thought about riding a motorcyle. This made motorcycles more acceptable or just part of the scenery. But it probably made it easier to blend in ie conduct operations in places they wouldn't have gotten away for long in years past.
It's been mentioned here but what is the lure or romanticism with the 'bikes' and riders ie the motorcycle gang life.
Freely roaming the country, unbound by the strictures of normal society. The nomad lifestyle is an ingrained part of our humanity. It has spawned whole cultures throughout history. In America, motorcycle gangs happen to be one of the most visible manifestations of it that remains to this day.
Freely roaming the country, unbound by the strictures of normal society. The nomad lifestyle is an ingrained part of our humanity. It has spawned whole cultures throughout history. In America, motorcycle gangs happen to be one of the most visible manifestations of it that remains to this day.
I doubt the guys who are into the dope trade and run other rackets like gambling, prostitution, porn etc. are doing much 'free roaming' or 'nomadic living' anymore. Can't just abandon your turf if you intend to keep it.
The Pagan's and Hells Angels motorcycle gangs are still operating their 'business' in NYC. The Pagans even shot at a Hells Angels new clubhouse in 2019. Ex ATF agent says they are in NYC aggressively expanding their 'business'
They are notorious for their viciousness. Hard to do but they surpass many of todays newer or pop up gangs with the crimes they commit.
Gangs like these contribute to much of cocaine, illegal gun sales etc. They have several big cases brought against them over the decades but they are national and don't seem to go away. Could be one of the reasons illegal drugs like cocaine are back in style.
This is also a reason many cities and states should not disband their gang units because these criminal entities need special attention. A local gang today left unchecked could go national like these did.
These are huge motorcycle clubs with hundreds or thousands of members. Some in any club as big as these will be criminals. But, not all are, and not all should be treated as criminals.
Outlaw bikers more closely resemble organized crime syndicates rather than street gangs. They deal in drugs, guns, prostitution, porn, and most of their violence is between rival clubs. In my day to day life I'm more concerned about the average thug on the street or mentally ill homeless addict than I am a 1% biker.
Where do you think the guns those street thugs get come from? They certainly aren't the ones travelling to/ negotiating with Russian or Mexican arms dealers. I agree that right now, there is way more of a threat to the average Joe from a person in psychosis, than there is from an MC right now.
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Originally Posted by Veritas Vincit
I doubt the guys who are into the dope trade and run other rackets like gambling, prostitution, porn etc. are doing much 'free roaming' or 'nomadic living' anymore. Can't just abandon your turf if you intend to keep it.
My BF was a founding father of the Sons Of Silence. At that time, decades ago, it started with one club in Southern Colorado By the time I met him in the 1990s there were 3 chapters for Colorado alone, as well as chapters in at least half of the states in the US & a few in Europe.
Brothers did travel frequently out of state & even out of the country for business. Other clubs who were allied would also ensure safe passage through areas they controlled, such as the Bandidos in NM (They also had chapters in Colorado). There were some patch holders who were constant drifters, like soldiers, going where they wanted or were needed.
It wasn't unusual to see patches from the HA, Bandidos, Nomads, High Plains Drifters & even Mongols at the Son's clubhouse parties, along with some attendees who flew patches from non-1% clubs, like BACA (Bikers Against Child Abuse) or 1%'s who were not patched with any club at all. The big MC's are actually international clubs, especially the Sons & HA's.
These are huge motorcycle clubs with hundreds or thousands of members. Some in any club as big as these will be criminals. But, not all are, and not all should be treated as criminals.
I get some of these members in these clubs are strictly that a member not participating in or have no/little knowledge of the felonies. But would these clubs exist on the scale they do without crime?
Like many criminal organizations that use fronts like legitimate businesses to launder their money these clubs use their club's 'purpose' to disguise and facilitate criminal activity. Problem is by the time one gets down to the local chapter how can the smaller groups of members not know or participate in some kind of criminal activity even if it's deliver this package wink wink.
A biker gang so vicious that one member removed his own artificial leg to beat a man senseless with the limb is aggressively expanding its turf in the Big Apple, warns a former Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agent who infiltrated the group.
My friend and I joke about this if we were ever robbed or attacked, that I'd just take my prosthetic leg off and beat them silly. I've never heard of anyone actually doing it though.
My BF was a founding father of the Sons Of Silence. At that time, decades ago, it started with one club in Southern Colorado By the time I met him in the 1990s there were 3 chapters for Colorado alone, as well as chapters in at least half of the states in the US & a few in Europe.
Brothers did travel frequently out of state & even out of the country for business. Other clubs who were allied would also ensure safe passage through areas they controlled, such as the Bandidos in NM (They also had chapters in Colorado). There were some patch holders who were constant drifters, like soldiers, going where they wanted or were needed.
It wasn't unusual to see patches from the HA, Bandidos, Nomads, High Plains Drifters & even Mongols at the Son's clubhouse parties, along with some attendees who flew patches from non-1% clubs, like BACA (Bikers Against Child Abuse) or 1%'s who were not patched with any club at all. The big MC's are actually international clubs, especially the Sons & HA's.
I'm not saying they're staying put all the time, and I know these are organizations with chapters all over the place. There's been violent conflicts between Bandidos, Hell's Angels and others all over Canada, Europe and even in Australia.
But I have heard stories in recent years of some MCs inducting people who barely care about the motorcycle element and instead are primarily focused on the money-making i.e. organized crime aspect of it. And I think that is an inevitable consequence of having such frequent dealings with drug trafficking networks and other organized crime groups.
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