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Old 06-15-2022, 09:51 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Sure... BUT, a sign indicating weight limits at the queue entrance would absolutely remove a lot of liability from all involved. A simple sign.
There could have been one there for all we know and the 14 year old ignored it.
He's a kid after all.
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Old 06-15-2022, 09:52 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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I mean, common sense would tell you that if you're too big for other rides, you'll likely be too big for ALL rides, but the kid was only 14. Maybe if an adult had been along, he or she would have pointed that out and/or intervened.

I do wonder how amusement parks handle this since people weighing 300+ pounds are not uncommon...
And how much common sense would a 14 year old have at an amusement park with his friends ?
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Old 06-15-2022, 10:37 AM
 
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And how much common sense would a 14 year old have at an amusement park with his friends ?
Precisely why I added that he was only 14, after all.
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Old 06-15-2022, 10:44 AM
 
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Not 40 lbs. heavier! He was close to 100 lbs heavier than the max weight.
He weighed 383. Max weight is 287. Take 383 minus 287 and it equals 96 lbs over.

Those numbers came from the link above.

https://nypost.com/2022/06/13/tyre-s...bs-over-limit/
Wow! Even more reason to believe that a sign would have kept him off and kept him alive. As I said earlier, I also blame the state for allowing ride owners to decide for themselves whether to post weight limits at the ride, or not. It shouldn't be optional to inform people riding a ride whether they are safe to do so.
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Old 06-15-2022, 10:45 AM
 
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There could have been one there for all we know and the 14 year old ignored it.
He's a kid after all.
No it was in the reporting that there wasn't a sign, it was just in the operator's manual. It is optional in Florida to post weight limits.
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Old 06-15-2022, 10:46 AM
 
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If they would have done this, it would have shielded them from much of the liability.
From some, but not all. That restraint never should have been adjusted like it was.
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Old 06-15-2022, 10:49 AM
 
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With all due respect, but do you think that the teenage operator could guess he was almost 400lbs instead of 300lbs? When I see someone obese I have no clue how much they weigh.
That's why it should have been posted. But there were excerpts from the operator's manual posted, which is very clear that any large person needed to be carefully examined at multiple points in the seat to ensure proper fit, and if they didn't fit properly they can't ride. Whoever adjusted the seat to override the safety sensor has much of the responsibility here. Had they not done that, the restraint wouldn't have latched all the way and the ride would never have run.
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Old 06-15-2022, 10:52 AM
 
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But a sign relies on the honor system; you'd have to have a sign AND a scale and weigh each rider before boarding. Even then you'd probably be sued for "discrimination" and "body shaming" by these same lawyers.
That is BS. Having a sign with a max weight limit isn't shaming anyone. No one would sue because a ride wasn't made for heavy people, and of they did it would get tossed out before it ever went anywhere. It isn't any different than signs that say "you must be this tall to ride". Many states DO mandate that restrictions be posted, and I never heard of lawsuits arising from it.

I don't think even a 14 year old would have chosen to go on knowing he was that far over the weight limit. Unfortunately that knowledge and the chance to decline was denied him.
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Old 06-16-2022, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Flawduh
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I do wonder how amusement parks handle this since people weighing 300+ pounds are not uncommon...
A lot of rides have a "can you fit" dummy seat with harness at the queue entrance, along with posted height and size limits.
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Old 06-16-2022, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Flawduh
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There could have been one there for all we know and the 14 year old ignored it.
He's a kid after all.
Been there. No sign.

And... The final catalyst was the seat harness adjustment. Had that not been done, he would not have fit in the restraint, and he would not have been able to ride, regardless of his being a "14 year old kid" or whatnot. I have seen, time and time again, people get turned away from rides for being too big. It's not uncommon at all. You can't fit, you don't ride. Plain and simple.
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