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Old 05-26-2022, 12:30 PM
 
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I think we need a lot more info on this case, but it looks like we're not going to get any, because the girl is back home, and her parents have probably circled the wagons and dug in against the media. They're the only ones who know why she ran away the first time, and what happened this time (if she told them; maybe they still don't know, or maybe she didn't tell them the truth). They and she are the only ones who know what their relationship with each other is like.

At least they got her back, and a gang of sex offenders and their accomplices are going to jail. That's a win.
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Old 05-26-2022, 12:46 PM
 
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Here's an article about a very similar case taking place in Dallas a few weeks before the case we're discussing. Also involved a local 15-year-old, whose mom was told by police, that they consider her a runaway, so they did nothing. The same anti-trafficking organization got involved, interviewed the girl after she was finally rescued, and said the girl's story was not that of a runaway. She was "snatched", which was the same term applied to the case we're discussing, at one point.

It's chilling to think there are these traffickers just hanging around certain public places (see article), just waiting for underage girls to walk by. And Dallas police allow it to happen. If you're 15, and you go out for a walk, or maybe a trip to neighborhood grocery/convenience store, and you're snatched by traffickers, you're assumed to be a runaway. Maybe the traffickers even stake out bus stops. It could happen. The law on runaways is enabling this.

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/lo...3PvcfyKJF12lQs
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Old 05-26-2022, 02:38 PM
 
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Here's an article about a very similar case taking place in Dallas a few weeks before the case we're discussing. Also involved a local 15-year-old, whose mom was told by police, that they consider her a runaway, so they did nothing. The same anti-trafficking organization got involved, interviewed the girl after she was finally rescued, and said the girl's story was not that of a runaway. She was "snatched", which was the same term applied to the case we're discussing, at one point.

It's chilling to think there are these traffickers just hanging around certain public places (see article), just waiting for underage girls to walk by. And Dallas police allow it to happen. If you're 15, and you go out for a walk, or maybe a trip to neighborhood grocery/convenience store, and you're snatched by traffickers, you're assumed to be a runaway. Maybe the traffickers even stake out bus stops. It could happen. The law on runaways is enabling this.

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/lo...3PvcfyKJF12lQs
Ask yourself a question already asked up thread: how many 15 y.o. girls do you know nowadays who leave their phone at home knowing that they will be away for 4-5 hours?
She meant it.
I feel compassion to any kidnapped girl, but this one on purpose walked away from her father with the guy she didn’t know, without the cell phone to track her
End of story and a sensational headline
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Old 05-27-2022, 10:20 AM
 
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Ask yourself a question already asked up thread: how many 15 y.o. girls do you know nowadays who leave their phone at home knowing that they will be away for 4-5 hours?
She meant it.
I feel compassion to any kidnapped girl, but this one on purpose walked away from her father with the guy she didn’t know, without the cell phone to track her
End of story and a sensational headline
I don't think the poster was disputing that the thread title girl didn't go willingly, just using this story to illustrate the ridiculous Dallas law that considers every missing teen a runaway, resulting in lack of investigation even in cases where the missing teen did not go willingly.
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Old 05-27-2022, 10:59 AM
 
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I don't think the poster was disputing that the thread title girl didn't go willingly, just using this story to illustrate the ridiculous Dallas law that considers every missing teen a runaway, resulting in lack of investigation even in cases where the missing teen did not go willingly.
That is a total miss representation of Texas law. Missing juveniles are investigated as runaways unless there is evidence they were kidnaped or abducted. That is just common sense. They are all investigated, but obviously LE has to take a kidnapping more serious than a teen who ranaway. This girl ranaway, and she was investigated as a runaway, by several police departments. The police did exactly what they were supposed to do.
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Old 05-27-2022, 11:03 AM
 
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That is a total miss representation of Texas law. Missing juveniles are investigated as runaways unless there is evidence they were kidnaped or abducted. That is just common sense. They are all investigated, but obviously LE has to take a kidnapping more serious than a teen who ranaway. This girl ranaway, and she was investigated as a runaway, by several police departments. The police did exactly what they were supposed to do.
Missing teens who are residents of Dallas may get investigated as runaways, but if the teen/family is from outside Dallas they tell the family it has to be reported to their home police, even if they disappeared in Dallas. That's why the poster included a link to the story she posted.
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Old 05-27-2022, 01:03 PM
 
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Missing teens who are residents of Dallas may get investigated as runaways, but if the teen/family is from outside Dallas they tell the family it has to be reported to their home police, even if they disappeared in Dallas. That's why the poster included a link to the story she posted.
Yes, as I have posted before that is standard protocol everywhere. It has to be reported in the appropriate location. But that doesn't mean that other police departments won't then get involved.
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Old 05-27-2022, 09:50 PM
 
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It's not realistic to believe that she didn't willingly leave the stadium. If someone wants to kidnap someone they are going to do it it a deserted dark place, not in the middle of a crowded stadium, where 50 people are going to witness it and call 911, and security is going to be there in less than 1 minute.

This is just more human trafficking urban legend. There is no human trafficking in this country. There is however and has always been teenage runaway prostitutes, and law enforcement agencies have always gotten big grants to stamp it out. But back in the 1990s they realized that the majority of people don't see anything wrong with prostitution, so they rebranded it as human trafficking, and now the vice squad are heroes again for fighting it. And parents of these girls don't have to face the stigma that their 15 year old ran away and became a prostitute. Instead their lovely daughter was human trafficked right out from under their eyes.

Getting back to this girl, this is clearly another case of a teenage girl meeting somebody online, and agreeing to meet up with them at the stadium.
Uhhh you are completely wrong. Plenty of girls end up in a jam, NOBODY runs away to be pimped out/abused. Young girls get mixed in with the wrong crowd, hang out be cool, smoke weed and suddenly she is in debt to some guy. Now that guy is pimping her out but she never sees a dollar and the sexual enslavement never ends.
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Old 05-27-2022, 10:12 PM
 
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Yes, as I have posted before that is standard protocol everywhere. It has to be reported in the appropriate location. But that doesn't mean that other police departments won't then get involved.
But in the story I posted, the girl was from Dallas, but her mother was told, police considered her case to be that of a runaway, so they didn't spring into action when she reported her missing. That's because of that law. Only 2 weeks later did the PD label her a missing person, and put out a bulletin about her. Eventually, the girl was able to get away from her captors, and found a police station to ask for help.

Her mother said, her daughter was right there in Dallas most of the time; she'd received several calls from people who had seen her downtown. An anti-trafficking organization helped to find her, and found surveillance footage of the daughter walking past. Police were ineffective in their limited efforts.

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Old 05-27-2022, 10:34 PM
 
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But in the story I posted, the girl was from Dallas, but her mother was told, police considered her case to be that of a runaway, so they didn't spring into action when she reported her missing. That's because of that law. The girl was not a runaway, and she was forced to do sex work for several weeks before the same anti-trafficking organization found her, as found the teen from out-of-town. She was right there in Dallas, and had been seen a few times, or caught on surveillance film passing by, but police never made an effort to find her, or not much of one.
The girl was considered a runaway, because she ran away. She left willingly, just like the girl who left the NBA game willingly. That's the way the law works, if a juvenile runs away, they are considered a runaway.

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Dallas police said the 15-year-old went missing on April 27. McDonald said she'd been scolded after getting in trouble at school and left their Downtown Dallas apartment building.

"I figured she was just going to go get herself together," McDonald told WFAA in a previous interview. "I never thought she would disappear. This isn't her."

McDonald said she called Dallas police that evening, but she was told her daughter was considered a runaway because she left willingly.
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